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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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> AI is destroying the economics which allowed for a sizable middle class of artists. I was an art major and switched to CompSci purely for the money. AI "art" is often slop, but the ability to create something in seconds that used to take months shouldn't be taken lightly. There will undoubtedly be truly creative people who will use AI art as a force multiplier instead of a shortcut, and that is when things will get…

"I was an art major and switched to CompSci purely for the money." Translation: Not an artist. I worked for 30 years as a pianist. The number of programmers who have told me they too are a musician... No- you aren't. And you never were. That's the thing, if you were a musician, you would be playing music. That would be your job. I mean as a hobbyist, yes, sure, enjoy splashing paint and calling it art, but spending t…

So Vivian Meier was not a photographer? The local bands that work day jobs aren't musicians?

Nonsense, frankly. Being an artist is not dependent on monetizing your talent.

There are artists and musicians and photographers, and there are professional musicians and artists and photographers.

What is someone who writes and performs music every day their whole life but bartends to pay their rent, to you? They're not a musician but someone that makes ukulele tracks for corporate training videos is, because the latter does it professionally?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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I honestly can't tell a good music video from a bad one. I don't know what makes a music video "good". These AI generated ones seemed pretty good to me, of the same caliber as those Michael Jackson or "Beez in the trap" things. It's all just butt shaking and sunglasses in Philips Hue lights chanting some meaningless words.

Imagine the blogpost was on AI generated classical music. Everyone, including the authors, agrees the result is shit. You, being classically trained, can understand more than most why the results are bad. Then someone comes along and says “I honestly can't really tell how these are worse than the human produced ones. They all sound kinda the same to me” and “I honestly can’t tell a good piece of music from a bad one.…

I think takes like GP's are perfectly reasonable to express and it aggravates me that HN seems not to like that. The competition for the AI work here is explicitly not aiming at a niche audience. If that human work is nevertheless higher quality, readily distinguishable by the general audience of people who like music videos (?), then that audience really ought to be able to articulate why and how.

Like:

> Everyone, including the authors, agrees the result is shit.

> I honestly can't really tell how these are worse than the human produced ones. They all [seem] kinda the same to me

There is not actually a contradiction here.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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"I was an art major and switched to CompSci purely for the money." Translation: Not an artist. I worked for 30 years as a pianist. The number of programmers who have told me they too are a musician... No- you aren't. And you never were. That's the thing, if you were a musician, you would be playing music. That would be your job. I mean as a hobbyist, yes, sure, enjoy splashing paint and calling it art, but spending t…

So Vivian Meier was not a photographer? The local bands that work day jobs aren't musicians? Nonsense, frankly. Being an artist is not dependent on monetizing your talent. There are artists and musicians and photographers, and there are professional musicians and artists and photographers. What is someone who writes and performs music every day their whole life but bartends to pay their rent, to you? They're not a mu…

If you are a computer programmer who meets up with your buddies to play every once in a while, no you aren't an artist.

If you are in a band, and you are playing all the time, obviously you are an artist. The job is facilitating you playing. The playing is the focus.

Someone who decides in college, or directly after college, "you know what, I'm just gonna be a programmer." Then touches the piano every once in a while, or plays with his friends every once in a while. I don't call that an artist.

There are so many of these people. They aren't artists. Sorry. Are the smart, probably, are they talented, probably, are they committed, yes to programming.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

I wonder how much of the sloppy feeling is created by the knowledge that its AI generated.

I wish I could see it with fresh eyes without the accumulated knowledge I have of how AI looks. What does this video look like to a person clueless about AI?

What do they think of the constant repetition of slow panning shows where barely anything is happening, or a guy spinning on the floor but his head morphs into his feet and his feet morph into his head, or a person kissing a mirror that isn't quite mirroring the person and it slowly becomes a person kissing what appears to be their identical twin standing on the other side a floating empty mirror frame?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Sure, this mirrors history, technology is always transforming economics. I guess my point is that there is a decent sized middle class of creative professionals right now, and I expect that the number of them will go down significantly due to AI. Seems like art will become more and more restricted to hobbyists and the lucky few who achieve mainstream success. This is kind of what happened with photography. But I thin…

If you take the analogy of smartphones & photographers- then why don't you take both sides? We're much better off with now than then.

So this is a bit of a hot take for HN, but while my life is dramatically more convenient due to smartphones, “better” is actually not obvious to me. Some things are better, some are worse.

Anyway, I don’t think anything I said was even framed morally (although of course I have my personal opinions). My prediction is just that the amount and average quality of paid creative work is going to massively decline. To me, the scale difference matters a lot (compared to impact of previous tech). I hope I’m wrong.

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Do you feel your coding skills atrophying as you write less code? Do you plan to mitigate that or just let them slide?

I feel like I've been doing less and less programming as I've become more senior. And that's been a good thing for me, I wouldn't want to go back to doing all the code myself. The perfect amount of hands-on programming is probably zero for me at this point.

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They have the same sentiment also now. I expect when you not write code at all you aren't more productive than before or producing unmaintainable shit. Sorry bro, most of the time it needs more text to explain the AI which small fault she has done compared with just fixing it self. So when you don't code at all, you either lose time by explaining this issues a guy that never learns or you just ignore them.

> you aren't more productive than before or producing unmaintainable shit.

That's a very strong statement with virtually zero argumentation.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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So Vivian Meier was not a photographer? The local bands that work day jobs aren't musicians? Nonsense, frankly. Being an artist is not dependent on monetizing your talent. There are artists and musicians and photographers, and there are professional musicians and artists and photographers. What is someone who writes and performs music every day their whole life but bartends to pay their rent, to you? They're not a mu…

If you are a computer programmer who meets up with your buddies to play every once in a while, no you aren't an artist. If you are in a band, and you are playing all the time, obviously you are an artist. The job is facilitating you playing. The playing is the focus. Someone who decides in college, or directly after college, "you know what, I'm just gonna be a programmer." Then touches the piano every once in a while…

>you are in a band, and you are playing all the time, obviously you are an artist.

Well, no, it's very much not obvious, you literally just said "you're not a musician, if you were, it'd be your job" but now it doesn't have to be your job, as long as your job isn't programming?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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I'm simply defining serious artists as people who are serious about their art, whether they're award winning filmmakers or amateur photographers. Roughly nobody out of all those people wants to use AI. (If you want to define it as professional artists instead, then I don't even see much of a conflict of interest. Professional programmers tend to be cautiously optimistic about the new tool and are finding uses for it,…

https://variety.com/2026/film/news/martin-scorsese-supports-...

This is simply cherry-picking (though of course the parent asked for it, by using the word "all" in their original comment - but that doesn't absolve you of resorting to a "gotcha").
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