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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by peab »

qnleigh wrote: post #322
scrollop wrote: post #298

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As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

I would really love to see examples of creatives using modern AI/LLMs to make quality art, and it feels like this should be happening, but I can't think of any examples yet. Maybe there's so much low-effort slop that the good works are lost in the noise. Or maybe most artists don't use AI on principle. I would love to see examples if anyone has any. I saw a few things on r/AIVideos that I sort of liked, but I wouldn'…

I've seen a few that have been shared - I'll link them here if I can find them.

I think right now most people here and on twitter have no taste, and post slop that were just sort of one shotted.

But there are people using these tools in a sort of hybrid way, which I think has incredible potential. You can use it to do CGI on existing footage, in a way that's orders of magnitudes faster and cheaper than current CGI methods.

I also think that the most viable models will be video-to-video, and audio-to-audio.

If you've read A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer, I think you might get what I'm saying. But essentially, you can capture a lot of emotion, expression, etc, using a cheap camera and a single actor, and then use AI to "stylize" it in a really cheap effective way, while keeping the emotion/expression. Adding lighting for example, upscaling the quality, changing the voice timbre while keeping the pacing, etc.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by throwawaytea »

hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

It was made with zero artistic intent, so it has zero value. If you sat down a talented art student that cared, they could prompt AI to make something artistically interesting to watch.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by Jtarii »

bubblegumcrisis wrote: post #479
qbit42 wrote: post #467

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I agree with some of your characterizations here, but I don’t think it is fair to say that if you are not currently a professional artist, you were never a true artist. People get unlucky, have families to support, etc

Sure, if you devote yourself to art, you commit, and I'm not talking some insulated school environment, to improve and struggle, and then you burn out. Yes, this is a well known path for an artist. They failed, but they are still an artist. They are a failed artist, and this is actually a proud title to wear. Someone who decides, "I'll be a programmer for money," was never an artist. Someone who studies music in coll…

This might be the most pretentious waffle I have ever read lmfao.

You write like the critic from Ratatouille.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by Jtarii »

eterm wrote: post #262
willmeyers wrote: post #124

It's an interesting experiment and the results are surprising. I will say that if you're a musician I'd bet anything you can make a way cooler and better music video for $25 and 45 minutes with your friends.

$25 is an exaggeration, because that wouldn't even cover lunch for your friends to say thanks for the favour. OK Go blew up early youtube with Here It Goes again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTAAsCNK7RA . But these are exceptions to the rule, most people don't have the ability to do much creatively with a shoestring budget. ( Which isn't to say this slop is better. This slop is far worse, it's utterly dreadful. )

>most people don't have the ability to do much creatively with a shoestring budget.

I'm sure in a room full of musicians they could come up with more creativity for a video than literally 0, which is what LLMs are currently capable of.

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Post by ryandrake »

59percentmore wrote: post #492
spaqin wrote: post #311

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Art isn't just the screenplay, or a prompt; it's the clash between reality and the intent (whether a location or practical set constraints), the individual skill of everyone involved, costume and prop department. And it may change during production. And effort. If it's easy, it's easily reproducible and not worth that much. And novelty, that's something current models aren't capable of. That's why Jarimoquai's Virtua…

If you've ever tried to get around Gemini or ChatGPT's guardrails, stock footage poisoning, and just general tendency to produce the most frustratingly banal version of your prompt possible, then you would understand that prompting AI images and video absolutely already involves a clash between reality and intent (in the sense that this is Google and OpenAI's world, we're just living in it). I would love to get aroun…

> If you've ever tried to get around Gemini or ChatGPT's guardrails, stock footage poisoning

Art is (often) provocative, uncomfortable, taboo, explicit, subversive, or challenging of norms. You're never going to get that out of increasingly locked-down and Disney-fied BigTech hosted LLMs obsessed with "AI safety."

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by dhosek »

scrollop wrote: post #298
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

There was an interesting recent 99% invisible episode about the creation of videos for Karaoke in the 90s, which talked about videos created on very low budgets for songs with tight constraints. Even adjusting for inflation, their budgets would be well below a million dollars by today’s standards (and some costs would likely be lower thanks to digital video removing the cost of purchasing and processing film stock and making editing cheaper).

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Post by 8note »

kriro wrote: post #330
f6v wrote: post #315

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> It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. All right, but that's what an average entertainment product looks like. All these new TV shows have exactly the same look and feel about them. The same actors playing the same roles over and over again. People keep comparing AI to some kind of once in a lifetime genius instead of an average person in the field.

This seems overly pessimistic to me. Of the recent shows I have watched, Andor contradicts it in my opinion. Might even be one of the best shows I have watched. Granted I rarely watch movies/TV shows these days so my random sample might just be lucky.

andor is without doubt, the exception that proves the rule and you know, was not renewed because it was so expensive to make

andor is exceptional

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by bjourne »

jayd16 wrote: post #255
bjourne wrote: post #168

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Eh, I'd like to see YOU make a better music video for $100 or less!

I remember when my friends in middle school were making DBZ fight scene music videos with iMovie and Movie Maker. They were way better than this and did not cost $100.

I'm not claiming that no one can make a better music video for $100. I'm claiming that a random member of the HN peanut gallery can't make a better music video for $100. :)
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