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Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

#922

Amazing to see an open source model already nearing the benchmarks of Fable and GPT 5.6 Sol! Also very cool to see LatentMoE being picked up by more models ( https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.18089 )

It also goes to show that Fable/Sol must be 4-5T in size.

how are you coming to that conclusion? If anything this tells me Fable and Sol and probably smaller, unless you think the Chinese have better data mix, learning algorithms, architecture etc?

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

#923

This might be the most impressive website generator demo I've seen: https://macos27.kimi.page Context from the person who prompted it: https://x.com/mweinbach/status/2077827886149439547

I just favorited your comment, which joins a vanishingly small list of revelations which completely blew my mind

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

#924

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Maybe the whole windows/linux thing is an apt comparison? Linux is OS and arguably runs the internet yet windows is still a cash cow. The paid-for models are like windows, the OS models are like linux?

Completely different levels of stickiness. The OS runs everything; the LLM can be swapped in a second. (But yes, you will have to tweak prompts+tuning anytime you change models)

Claude Design with Fable 5 is an absolute killer app that you’d have to pry from my cold dead hands.

I’m not an Anthropic fanboy - Codex has been my daily coding driver for the last year.

But my point is these companies are building app + model combos that are very sticky. Certainly not as much as an OS, but much more than the “there is no moat” crowd give them credit for.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

#925
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US labs must be sweating bullets. Not on tech side, but on finance. They have a pile of debt and VC expectations that count on vast future profitability

They'll just lobby the government, feds will label them a security threat and ban them from corporate use. The American AI VC will breathe a huge sigh of relief and call it a day.

Nothing says capitalism like writing laws to stop the competition needed to fuel innovation.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

#926

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely different levels of stickiness. The OS runs everything; the LLM can be swapped in a second. (But yes, you will have to tweak prompts+tuning anytime you change models)

Claude Design with Fable 5 is an absolute killer app that you’d have to pry from my cold dead hands. I’m not an Anthropic fanboy - Codex has been my daily coding driver for the last year. But my point is these companies are building app + model combos that are very sticky. Certainly not as much as an OS, but much more than the “there is no moat” crowd give them credit for.

When they can sell that for tens of Billions a year against competition, they might have a financial case.

In reality, there will be many clones of Claude Design, especially if it gains big revenue traction.

Doubly so if you believe the narrative that coding and apps will be "free" and instant to create in the future.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

#928

This might be the most impressive website generator demo I've seen: https://macos27.kimi.page Context from the person who prompted it: https://x.com/mweinbach/status/2077827886149439547

Holy. That is impressive. The browser doesn't seem to work that well though.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

#930
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There is a full-on chess game in this page .. I wonder if it created a mini engine on its own or if it used one of the available open source solutions. Very impressive.

I beat it, so I don't think it's any good (I'm terrible). But it also wasn't just random or anything, it played like a beginner.

I suspect it's just random. I tried feeding one of its pawns my Queen and it completely ignored it, choosing to move a knight nearby instead that didn't take the Queen.
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