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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by functionmouse »

tejohnso wrote: post #450
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

> A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon I should hope that a "talented" creative "with a vision" could, do better, yes. But now a talentless hack devoid of vision can do something half decent too. And if you don't think this is half decent, just replace "now" with "soon".

> And if you don't think this is half decent, just replace "now" with "soon".

see, you keep saying that, but it never comes true. First of all, you suggest that just because progress has been fast up to now, it will continue being fast. I think that's something like Gambler's fallacy. Secondly, the progress we're seeing is not like linear progress to 100%. It continues to get certain things extremely wrong. This might be half decent today for fooling the elderly, but it's not a good look for artistic expression or even marketing for that matter.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by websap »

hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

The scary thing is that this is the worst this technology will ever be.

The media industry is cooked.

Get ready for $100 movie theater tickets, because the cost actual creative work is going to go sky high in the next few years

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by bmau5 »

websap wrote: post #482
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

The scary thing is that this is the worst this technology will ever be. The media industry is cooked. Get ready for $100 movie theater tickets, because the cost actual creative work is going to go sky high in the next few years

Wouldn't it track that AI creative work would plummet ticket costs rather than increase them?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by sigsop7 »

websap wrote: post #482
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

The scary thing is that this is the worst this technology will ever be. The media industry is cooked. Get ready for $100 movie theater tickets, because the cost actual creative work is going to go sky high in the next few years

> Get ready for $100 movie theater tickets, because the cost actual creative work is going to go sky high in the next few years

I suspect movie theaters will just die. Even nowadays, on the occasion I go to see a movie, I damn near gave the entire theater to myself. Given the output from Hollywood is already abysmal, I can’t imagine paying $100 for it even if the alternative is AI slop.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by jvorick »

websap wrote: post #482
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

The scary thing is that this is the worst this technology will ever be. The media industry is cooked. Get ready for $100 movie theater tickets, because the cost actual creative work is going to go sky high in the next few years

Movie tickets won't skyrocket. The price to make content will only go down. Best case, creators will be able to make better movies w/ a fraction of the $$ (faster iteration on concepts, cheaper CGI, no need to hire extras, etc). Worst case, movie makers don't find AI useful and ticket prices stay the same.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by MPSimmons »

hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

Yeah, a $100 AI music video is materially worse than not having a music video.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by danielbln »

easyThrowaway wrote: post #374
qnleigh wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would really love to see examples of creatives using modern AI/LLMs to make quality art, and it feels like this should be happening, but I can't think of any examples yet. Maybe there's so much low-effort slop that the good works are lost in the noise. Or maybe most artists don't use AI on principle. I would love to see examples if anyone has any. I saw a few things on r/AIVideos that I sort of liked, but I wouldn'…

It won't happen for the intrisc nature of (current-gen, at least) AI of being forced within the limits of their training, which deprives the artist of intent - that is, specifically the ability of questioning in some way what came before him. The point of art isn't "I made it pretty so it has value now", it's "This is how I see the world, am I the only one who feels this way?". And yes, this is valid even for absolut…

> AI of being forced within the limits of their training

AI doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's the sum of training, inputs and outputs. If I give it novel inputs, the outputs won't be solely within the limits of their training. If I use it as part of a pipeline, the end result of the pipeline too won't be forced within the limits of AI training.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by marknutter »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #319
starshadowx2 wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this new one made with Seedance 2.5 is actually not too bad. https://x.com/BytePlusGlobal/status/2077321849806234080

Needs more cuts.

I saw nothing wrong with the number of cuts, seems very in line with other commercials like this. I would not have been able to tell this was made by ai had I not known it going into it.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

scrollop wrote: post #298
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

You're kinda right but it's exactly the ease of generation and the lack of time and money spent which makes people value AI output less.

A fake Gauguin painting and a real one can be almost indistinguishable to the human eye. But only one is worth the big bucks. Everyone scoffs at the other (once told which is real and which is fake). Something similar might happen to AI where the requirement to disclose it becomes a signal that the creator has cheapened out

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