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Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by Peanuts99 »

dwa3592 wrote: post #24
blfr wrote: post #11

I admonish Gemini and demand explanation nearly every day of how it's possible that Google invented the thing, has the best infrastructure for inference, and somehow falls behind Anthropic and even OpenAI. NotebookLM is pretty cool since it can hold a ton of context but this is so far below my (and frankly just reasonable) expectations of Google. I downgraded my Gemini subscription and got Claude. Still can't believe…

Antigravity sucks so bad that I have started to feel that google really doesn't wanna compete, they just wanna hang in there at number 2 or 3, to just annoy the number 1 and 2.

I recently got a trial for the Google AI Pro subscription and it burned through a week's in a single prompt. Quite impressive for sure.

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Post by ctkhn »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

I never got into the podcasts side but it was good for synthesizing multiple documents in a way chatgpt or google's ai overview couldn't, but now I will just dump a couple PDFs into a new chat in Ollama and then ask it questions about the content. Is there another killer app for notebookLM out there?

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Post by mkl »

mistakevin wrote: post #123

I've been working on https://notebooker.ai if anyone is interested in giving some feedback. I tried to post a Show HN yesterday with details about how I built it, but was auto-flagged and not sure what rules I broke. Everything that I've built on top of open-notebook, like the plugin system for your own "creators" (aka, podcasts, infographics, etc) is at https://github.com/Notebooker-ai plus a Cloudflare Worker AI de…

The rules are here (linked at the top of the Show HN page): https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

I agree it's likely the sign-up barrier, but also the button says "Open the web app" and then it doesn't open the web app.

You can email the mods for advice/info on this sort of thing (Contact link at the bottom).

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Post by windenntw »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #69
citiguy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow, this is a great idea. Can I ask what your prompt looks like?

Me: Ok so I'm going on a walk. I'll dump a link to a Hacker News discussion about an article. You have to read the article and the discussion and walk me thru all the interesting details, nugget by nugget, and move on when I'm ready for the next piece. ChatGPT Live: ok, Great show me the link, I'm waiting. (I paste the link) Me: Ok I pasted it. Now go. ==== For the Socratic quiz I say: I want to understand this more…

Thats an excellent idea. I've created https://gemini.google.com/gem/17xMogBqRSc2AtdCC-WRfObgHcceD0... and tested it with a couple conversations and it works great :)

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Post by ishouldstayaway »

dotancohen wrote: post #86
forkerenok wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wondered when the name change was coming because this is Google: products be endlessly repackaged and renamed, some only to be killed later.

> products be endlessly repackaged I don't speak English at home either, so I hope this helps. It's "products are", not "products be".

a) This was probably just a typo for "being".

b) Hey but at least you can learn something today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitual_be

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by idbnstra »

fumeux_fume wrote: post #131
siquick wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is actually an interrupt mode in NotebookLM now. Overall I've found it the best AI product Google have. Only complaint I have about it is the hyper positive US corporate accents get pretty annoying pretty quickly. The realtime voice in ChatGPT is excellent, the newer model is a big step up too.

I wonder how much of the annoying aspects of the podcasters can be controlled by the custom user instructions. I hate sitting through the patter of how "we're not political, just reporting the views of the sources."

"We have some REALLY interesting sources that we're discussing today"

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Post by toddmorey »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

I can’t believe how bad Claude’s voice mode is. So much latency and it often tells me “this is rather technical” and would be better talking it out over text.

OpenAI has much less latency, can adapt to speak about any topic (though will tell you it put a code sample to look at later), and it just feels like brainstorming with a colleague.

If you haven’t tried the live voice version of ChatGPT recently, you should. I love to brainstorm ideas while on walks and it’s fabulous for that.

Ask it to summarize the conversation into a doc that will be waiting for you when you are back at your desk.

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Post by toddmorey »

siquick wrote: post #126
d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

There is actually an interrupt mode in NotebookLM now. Overall I've found it the best AI product Google have. Only complaint I have about it is the hyper positive US corporate accents get pretty annoying pretty quickly. The realtime voice in ChatGPT is excellent, the newer model is a big step up too.

Yeah I think the podcasts were just a clever hack until AI is fast enough to support realtime. It’s practically there now, so a fake podcast is a funny relic and hard to sit through.

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Post by scarab92 »

toddmorey wrote: post #177
d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

I can’t believe how bad Claude’s voice mode is. So much latency and it often tells me “this is rather technical” and would be better talking it out over text. OpenAI has much less latency, can adapt to speak about any topic (though will tell you it put a code sample to look at later), and it just feels like brainstorming with a colleague. If you haven’t tried the live voice version of ChatGPT recently, you should. I…

Is there a way to make the ChatGPT live experience less dumbed down?

It just wants to stay at a superficial level, while annoyingly mimicking human traits like “hmmms” and “umms”

I’ve found the better approach is to dictate into the text version and have it read the response. The responses are way better, so long as they don’t contain a table.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by d4rkp4ttern »

siquick wrote: post #126
d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

There is actually an interrupt mode in NotebookLM now. Overall I've found it the best AI product Google have. Only complaint I have about it is the hyper positive US corporate accents get pretty annoying pretty quickly. The realtime voice in ChatGPT is excellent, the newer model is a big step up too.

Too much friction in notebookLM - several minutes to make a podcast, and they disappear after a while, and the interrupt feature is super-janky.
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