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Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#81
post #14

I fear the upcoming changes... It ALWAYS starts with a name change, then more useless features, more ensh*ttification, then users flee, then the product is killed. Google: - Hangout - Chat - Meets - Duo - ...

The new chat interface in google meets is hilariously bad. Doesn't even load half the time.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google seems to have competing orgs especially when something becomes a company-wide priority. Before it was chat apps, now it's AI. Idk if it's intentional, but it did seem that way with Jetski vs Gemini CLI, where they decided Jetski was better and nixed the other. Also ChromeOS vs Android.

Jetski is a code name. And it was replaced (I expect, don’t know for sure) because GeminiCLI was built on a code base and language that didn’t scale in performance for what people were doing.

I know Gemini CLI was written in JS + React. Even the public version had a very slow startup time that some might blame on the stack. But Claude CLI is a similar stack and starts instantly, so idk, does Bun really make the difference?

Internally I didn't like Gemini CLI just because it didn't have the right skills/whatever preinstalled, so it always did stuff that made sense elsewhere but not at Google, like trying to grep through the entire monorepo. Jetski just worked.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#84
post #14

I fear the upcoming changes... It ALWAYS starts with a name change, then more useless features, more ensh*ttification, then users flee, then the product is killed. Google: - Hangout - Chat - Meets - Duo - ...

Wave. That was more of a tech preview though I guess.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#86

I wondered when the name change was coming as NotebookLM felt a bit out of place brand-wise. Still would have been killer if they called it "Bard Notebook"

I wondered when the name change was coming because this is Google: products be endlessly repackaged and renamed, some only to be killed later.

  > products be endlessly repackaged
I don't speak English at home either, so I hope this helps. It's "products are", not "products be".

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#87
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I reckon the same dipshits responsible for Microsoft’s product naming in the early 2000s all moved on to Google to wreak the same havoc there.

Their current product naming is still terrible.They went from the Xbox, to the Xbox 360, the Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, and Xbox Series X. The latest console is the Asus ROG Xbox Ally X

...and the Ally ISN'T EVEN AN XBOX!!!!

"""AI Overview: No, the Asus ROG Ally is not actually an Xbox. It is a handheld Windows computer made by Asus, even though it features Xbox branding and uses an Xbox-style controller layout"""

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#88

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

>hack >podcast slop >letting the llm do it for you there is a very good reason microsoft's ceo got repeatedly dunked on and it was because he literally couldn't stop babbling incoherently about having AI listen to things for him i cannot imagine just sucking the joy out of life like this.

This may come as a surprise, but some people have to ingest large amounts of information for reasons other than producing joy.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they renamed Gemini CLI to Antigravity CLI. And it's worse.

It's not just a rename, they broke the old one.

Not even just broke, they completely disabled people's ability to use it. Took it out behind the woodshed.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#90
post #40

Any people with insight on why this happens? From my corporate experience this generally happens when two teams are working on a similar thing, they complain about turf to leadership, and leadership either makes them consolidate efforts or chooses a winner. Is that what happens at Google a lot? Or do they just constantly tweak things to the point they cease to live or be used?

I've seen this sort of thing happen when something starts small and no one cares and then it gets traction. Eg: If you have a tiny toy project that the engineers call one thing, you might publish it under that name. If it then gets the attention of some higher level marketing team, you might rebrand it to align with the rest of the company.

No idea if that happened here or in google generally.

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