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The human-in-the-loop is tired
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're just getting used to the invention of the washing machine. All clothes are equally cleansed on average, with good enough results even if afterwards some particular pieces need a bit of extra care, while before we had to clean them all one by one and paying attention to minutia and details on each piece's needs. Nowadays you just control a couple buttons and hope for the best. Better to find joy in other parts o…
> Better to find joy in other parts of the process! I recommend the joy of helping the customer get what they truly want. Spend more time on client calls and intercept additional hot potatoes now that we have extra free time to work with. The technology is a blank canvas. These LLMs are like 600DPI color laser printers. The customer cannot tell the difference between hand painted and LLM generated at even a short dis…
That's such a naive take, the joy of helping the customer ha! That's a situation your employer sets up for you!
Try reading your sentence above and swapping in 'EMPLOYEE':
'These LLMs are like EMPLOYEES. The customer cannot tell the difference between EMPLOYEE painted and LLM generated at even a short distance. '
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#133Are you tired?
Tell us why.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it all depends on your personal driver: personally I rather see a product I built in whatever way used by ever growing number of people because they find it useful. It means that the time I spent working on that helped other people solving a problem (hopefully). That’s why a was always keen on cutting some corners when and where necessary in order to think about the user first and the code beauty second. Of c…
You don't understand what the OP said, your brain can get a intrinsic reward from seeing users use your LLM work. But LLM remove all the little intrinsic rewards from coding elegant systems to get to the point where you see users using your work. It is all about the destination now where it used to be about the journey and the destination.
I think you don't understand that they understand. For them it's the destination that matters. Their journey is different.
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#135We've started calling it "Human on the hook" instead of human in the loop in work. It is more accurate, in terms of, it only matters when something goes wrong. Edit:"On the hook" is a general expression that means if something goes wrong it lands on you as the responsibile party, generally in a negative way. As in, if it goes right, you don't get kudos, if it goes wrong, you're on the hook for it
Employee Role: Blameable Component.
And when was it not...
Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired
#136> I felt that one in my bones. I was up until nearly 2am recently, prompting, because I was so close to getting a plan right. Or so I thought. [...] And it's addictive in a way that makes the isolation worse. Right, it's more like pulling the lever on slot machine. Oooh, 677, bad luck, do a ritual and try again, and maybe this time... Sure, regular programming also has a feedback loop, but normal errors are--as much…
I remember when I was just learning how to code and making some web app, I had to do a lot more blind guessing and running. "Ok let me try this... Will that work now?" I remember staying up really late, feeling stuck to the computer in that slot machine mode. Then when I learned more I got less and less of that guessing feeling. I understood what I was building and what would work, I began using typed languages and c…
It's a trip back to a guesswork stage because most of the training data looks like the process you described your beginnings have been like.
Now you know how to do things first shot. When you write the code, your inner voice reminds you ahead of time to do it like this and that. And that "this and that" is what your prompt needs to have to avoid the trip to guesswork. Working with agents is like working with juniors. If you don't give them the direction and explain how, they'll be as lost as the LLM. The difference is, your brain finds guardrails as you solve the problem, the LLM doesn't have this context, you have to give it upfront. Like, you know, a good manager would.
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#137Reminds me of "The Animal is Tired" (2021) ( https://www.robinhobb.com/blog/archives/2021-05 )
Oh that hit me more than I thought it would, thank you.
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#138I’m finding you can still get into flow state, but you need to find that sweet spot where the context switching is pushing you right up to your limits but not too far.
If one of your agents is working with you on something which requires deep focus, that naturally requires more of your mental resources. So it’s all a dynamic scheduling problem. It exercises your ability to recall contexts very rapidly and I’m enjoying growing that capacity.
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#140> a Berkeley Haas study which describes how AI usage increases the intensity of work
The marketing around this 'study' has been impressive. They published the HBR article [0] and other promotional material [1] over 5 months ago, but as far as I can tell, the actual study itself (even a preprint version) still isn't available anywhere. Hard to evaluate how believable the results are without being able to actually see the details of how the study was done. For now, all we know is that it's based on ~40 qualitative interviews from a single company in a single industry.
[0] https://hbr.org/2026/02/ai-doesnt-reduce-work-it-intensifies...
[1] https://newsroom.haas.berkeley.edu/ai-promised-to-free-up-wo...