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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by parineum »

alternatex wrote: post #212
parineum wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wonder what people who say things like this are doing with their phones. Two generations of phones ago, these performance parameters were fine. What software has come out on Android phones since then that's made that performance level unacceptable?

Pixel phones have always been behind in hardware power. They're not performing at budget level, but compared to most OnePlus devices they are way behind in performance. In the Android world performance means longevity. Any Pixel tensor chip or non-high-end Snapdragon or MediaTek chip has a "smoothness" lifespan of 2-3 years.

> In the Android world performance means longevity.

This is the assumption I'm challenging. What are people doing on their phones that makes a two year old phone feel two years old?

Maybe it's 3d gaming, I don't do any of that on my phone but for any productivity apps, I don't think I've noticed an effective difference in my phone for years.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by michaelmrose »

adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Signed sealed and delivered?

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by smlacy »

michaelmrose wrote: post #282
adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Signed sealed and delivered?

I'm yours!

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by asveikau »

MYEUHD wrote: post #177
freedomben wrote: post #158

OnePlus is one of the saddest stories out there. It was the hacker's choice for a while. It was originally the "Never Settle" phone that ran mostly stock android, had specs maxxed out, price was great, and bootloader was unlocked plus they provided factory images. Those were all reasons I bought a lot of OnePlus phones in the early years. Then they flushed nearly all of it down the toilet. The day they stopped postin…

> had specs maxxed out Indeed, their 10 year old flagship has 6GB of RAM. https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php (for comparison, last year's iPhone 17 has just 8GB or RAM, 9 years later)

Phones are skimping on RAM lately because of the price spikes due to the AI boom. Phones and laptops are sometimes debuting with less RAM than their predecessors of the same brand.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by alternatex »

parineum wrote: post #281
alternatex wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pixel phones have always been behind in hardware power. They're not performing at budget level, but compared to most OnePlus devices they are way behind in performance. In the Android world performance means longevity. Any Pixel tensor chip or non-high-end Snapdragon or MediaTek chip has a "smoothness" lifespan of 2-3 years.

> In the Android world performance means longevity. This is the assumption I'm challenging. What are people doing on their phones that makes a two year old phone feel two years old? Maybe it's 3d gaming, I don't do any of that on my phone but for any productivity apps, I don't think I've noticed an effective difference in my phone for years.

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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by abraxas »

Eduard wrote: post #253
abraxas wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still remember the wait lists for OP1, 2 and 3. OnePlusX was the sexiest looking phone anyone ever released, before and since.

what makes the OnePlusX look good to you? Just looked it up, it has the standard smartphone look

it was a seamless sandwich of glass on both sides - no camera tumour. The metal band around it felt solid (likely stainless steel) and had nicely masked antenna cuts. The phone felt both very light and very solid at the same time.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by 9dev »

limagnolia wrote: post #145
mellosouls wrote: post #26

Editorialised! No new products, not halts operations. Please be more careful. OnePlus has decided to conclude new product rollouts in Europe and North America. The difference matters for those of us on OnePlus devices: Though we will no longer launch new products in Europe, our commitment to you remains unchanged. Backed by OPPO, existing OnePlus devices will continue to receive scheduled software updates and securit…

Curiosly, they only say this to their European customers. It isn't clear that they plan to continue supporting North American customers. Either way, eventually operations will halt, because existing products will be out of their update commitments. Headline would be more accurate if it said "is winding down".

The regulations and requirements are much stricter in Europe, especially around warranty, repairs, and support. There's no wiggling out of that if you sell devices around here.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by [deleted] »

noja wrote: post #267
adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Tell us more about silicon carbide batteries!

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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by MichaelZuo »

adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

That doesnt make sense as an example. Nearly everyone on HN would be aware of the great seal of the United States?

That all formal diplomatic letters are still sealed with to this very day, without exception.

Maybe it’s just a mental shock that HQ would demand that level of formality for more mundane things?

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by jodacola »

adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Appreciate the insight.

I'm really quite curious about the inverse of this from the US. HNers who don't live in the US but have worked for a US company trying to do business in local markets: what weird US-centric idiosyncrasies have you seen companies and US-based leadership foisting upon local markets?

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