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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by microtonal »

parineum wrote: post #170
jacooper wrote: post #121

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Nah the hardware is still crap. CPU performance that's genuinely like two generations behind being sold as a flagship somehow.

I always wonder what people who say things like this are doing with their phones. Two generations of phones ago, these performance parameters were fine. What software has come out on Android phones since then that's made that performance level unacceptable?

I think the issue is more the prices that Google charge for what is largely a mid-range phone (except maybe cameras). I don't think people would object as much if Google priced them as Pixels in the old days.

Prices usually get ok halfway the cycle, though this year not as much due to the RAM/SSD squeeze.

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Post by alternatex »

parineum wrote: post #170
jacooper wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah the hardware is still crap. CPU performance that's genuinely like two generations behind being sold as a flagship somehow.

I always wonder what people who say things like this are doing with their phones. Two generations of phones ago, these performance parameters were fine. What software has come out on Android phones since then that's made that performance level unacceptable?

Pixel phones have always been behind in hardware power. They're not performing at budget level, but compared to most OnePlus devices they are way behind in performance. In the Android world performance means longevity. Any Pixel tensor chip or non-high-end Snapdragon or MediaTek chip has a "smoothness" lifespan of 2-3 years.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

jacooper wrote: post #121
pta2002 wrote: post #112

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Google’s phones are pretty good nowadays, I feel like they carry that ethos more than modern OnePlus phones anyway. Plus they can be unlocked trivially, which is officially supported, and you can install GrapheneOS on them.

Nah the hardware is still crap. CPU performance that's genuinely like two generations behind being sold as a flagship somehow.

Is two generations ago before 2020? Everything is 100% more expensive than pre-2020 prices.

Eating out is there. Power Tools are there. Land is beyond that and Housing has been there for 6 years now.

I'm not surprised. The March of inflation has been a wreckening this decade.

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Post by freedomben »

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #206
freedomben wrote: post #183

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Yeah I remember buying a OnePlus 7 Pro with 12 GB (!) of RAM like 7 years ago. The processor was also bleeding edge and that sucker ripped . It combined with stuff like termux was so capable that I used it to run all kinds of stuff that makes little sense on a normal phone. The day that phone retired (from drop damage) was heartbreaking*. * It actually ran even longer after that as various utilities but not a daily d…

That's the phone I was using too. Gave it to my wife a couple years ago and she used it until just a couple months ago when it too suffered a fatal drop. Very sad. Good phone. I was worried about that pop up camera failing at some point, but it never did

Indeed, that pop up camera worried me too but was never an issue. It survived lots of pocket lint, and even beach sand and was always reliable. I'd easily trade the current "notch" approach on most phones for a pop up camera (assuming similar quality).

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

ricw wrote: post #185
MYEUHD wrote: post #177

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> had specs maxxed out Indeed, their 10 year old flagship has 6GB of RAM. https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php (for comparison, last year's iPhone 17 has just 8GB or RAM, 9 years later)

Not an apples to apples comparison#. iOS uses way less ram than android, plus has memory compression. That’s why Apple gets away with less ram and much smaller batteries with equal or better performance. # pun intended

> iOS uses way less ram than android, plus has memory compression. That’s why Apple gets away with less ram and much smaller batteries with equal or better performance.

Yeah, by aggressively purging all my Safari tabs (and Apps) unexpectedly, during the most convenient times, like when I'm going through a tunnel on the train and my cellular connection is at its best. Still infuriatingly common on my 17 Pro with 12GB of RAM.

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Post by dminik »

pta2002 wrote: post #112
jascha_eng wrote: post #103

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Sad I have a 6 year old oneplus and was looking for a new phone somewhat soon, would've considered them again for sure. Any alternatives? They always had a reputation for me for being a great no fuss, little bloat and simply fast android phone.

Google’s phones are pretty good nowadays, I feel like they carry that ethos more than modern OnePlus phones anyway. Plus they can be unlocked trivially, which is officially supported, and you can install GrapheneOS on them.

I have had a mixed experience. Bought my Mom a Pixel 9a. It seems to be running fine with no issues.

Bought a Pixel 10 Pro XL for myself and had to return it. Connectivity issues (WiFi connected, but no internet), screen losing colors (white would turn gray), ghosting issues (scrolled/hidden content would stay on screen for a period of time).

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by basilikum »

microtonal wrote: post #200
ricw wrote: post #185

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Not an apples to apples comparison#. iOS uses way less ram than android, plus has memory compression. That’s why Apple gets away with less ram and much smaller batteries with equal or better performance. # pun intended

plus has memory compression. FYI, Android has had zRAM support since KitKat, which is from (checking notes) 2013. Same year as iOS. iOS uses way less ram than android Common measurements I have seen is around 40%, I wouldn't say way less, but it is definitely less. Still, 3x more for a model in the same year is impressive (and more than needed to be competitive with iOS) and we should give OnePlus credit for it. Sadl…

> 623 Euro, which is a nice midrange price [for a phone].

How did we get here?

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by robotnikman »

freedomben wrote: post #214
8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #206

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That's the phone I was using too. Gave it to my wife a couple years ago and she used it until just a couple months ago when it too suffered a fatal drop. Very sad. Good phone. I was worried about that pop up camera failing at some point, but it never did

Indeed, that pop up camera worried me too but was never an issue. It survived lots of pocket lint, and even beach sand and was always reliable. I'd easily trade the current "notch" approach on most phones for a pop up camera (assuming similar quality).

Same. Oneplus showed that the pop up camera was a perfectly workable approach for the front camera instead of using a notch.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by celsoazevedo »

I usually don't get attached to brands, but this makes me sad.

I bought the OnePlus One in 2015 after Apple killed my iPhone 5's performance and I was told to just buy a new iPhone (this was before they were sued and added a setting to control throttling on "old" batteries). The phone was fast, had more storage than the iPhone, better camera, no bloat (it ran Cyanogen!), had a notification light, felt nice on the hand (sandstone back), and as a nerd, I loved the amount of Android custom ROMs for it. Liked it so much that at one point everyone at home was using OnePlus Ones.

Also had my disappointments. The OnePlus 2 kept overheating (mainly due to the terrible Snapdragon 810), the camera on the OnePlus 3 wasn't as good as their social media posts made me believe, the slow/lack of software updates, etc, but they were cheap devices.

My last OnePlus was the 8 Pro. By the time I gave it away, it was no longer the same old OnePlus. OxygenOS was replaced by ColorOS (even if they kept the old name), which I never really liked, and prices kept increasing even though some of the weaknesses were still there, etc. It was time to move on.

Still have an old OnePlus One "bacon". No longer use it, but during the Covid years I wiped it and installed LineageOS (currently runs LOS 18.1/Android 11 from August 2023). The battery is bad and the display has some discolouration around the edges, but still runs:

- https://celsoazevedo.com/files/2026/oneplus_one_front.jpg

- https://celsoazevedo.com/files/2026/oneplus_one_back.jpg

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