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Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by tokioyoyo »

blfr wrote: post #11

I admonish Gemini and demand explanation nearly every day of how it's possible that Google invented the thing, has the best infrastructure for inference, and somehow falls behind Anthropic and even OpenAI. NotebookLM is pretty cool since it can hold a ton of context but this is so far below my (and frankly just reasonable) expectations of Google. I downgraded my Gemini subscription and got Claude. Still can't believe…

My wild guess is Google isn’t willing to play as dirty as the others wrt data acquisition.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#92

Post by singhkays »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #69
citiguy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow, this is a great idea. Can I ask what your prompt looks like?

Me: Ok so I'm going on a walk. I'll dump a link to a Hacker News discussion about an article. You have to read the article and the discussion and walk me thru all the interesting details, nugget by nugget, and move on when I'm ready for the next piece. ChatGPT Live: ok, Great show me the link, I'm waiting. (I paste the link) Me: Ok I pasted it. Now go. ==== For the Socratic quiz I say: I want to understand this more…

thanks for sharing! saving this to refer back to this

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#93

Post by pmarreck »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

The limit of these things being at least partially due to the users’ imagination explains at least some of the terrible criticisms I see out there which do not stand up to scrutiny. Perfect example just now in the wild: https://x.com/peregrinepulp/status/2077839461749338560?s=46&...

anyway, your idea is sweet, likely because you are smart

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#94

Post by petra »

hek2sch wrote: post #16
abirch wrote: post #5

Are there other tools out there like NotebookLM? Not a replacement but some cool AI tools that help people learn.

Best closest I stumble on is nouswise. Lets you contain an agent with even more sources and generate almost all outputs.

No pricing, "call for demo". Not sure this is for personal use.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#95

Post by mandeepj »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #69
citiguy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow, this is a great idea. Can I ask what your prompt looks like?

Me: Ok so I'm going on a walk. I'll dump a link to a Hacker News discussion about an article. You have to read the article and the discussion and walk me thru all the interesting details, nugget by nugget, and move on when I'm ready for the next piece. ChatGPT Live: ok, Great show me the link, I'm waiting. (I paste the link) Me: Ok I pasted it. Now go. ==== For the Socratic quiz I say: I want to understand this more…

To each their own, but for me - that'd be a heavy cognitive load. I ask Claude or ChatGPT to summarize HN comments and the article and provide any takeaways or wisdom nuggets. That's it.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by doctorpangloss »

estearum wrote: post #88
lardosaurusrex wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>hack >podcast slop >letting the llm do it for you there is a very good reason microsoft's ceo got repeatedly dunked on and it was because he literally couldn't stop babbling incoherently about having AI listen to things for him i cannot imagine just sucking the joy out of life like this.

This may come as a surprise, but some people have to ingest large amounts of information for reasons other than producing joy.

what do you think will come of the people who have to ingest large amounts of information for reasons other than producing joy, if the AI is ingesting large amounts of information for them?

and anyway... the commenter is doing this for joy. so who, really, are you even talking about?

why be snarky? i agree, your AI is going to make the tedium in your job easier.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by pmarreck »

lardosaurusrex wrote: post #79
d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

>hack >podcast slop >letting the llm do it for you there is a very good reason microsoft's ceo got repeatedly dunked on and it was because he literally couldn't stop babbling incoherently about having AI listen to things for him i cannot imagine just sucking the joy out of life like this.

you must be this guy

https://x.com/peregrinepulp/status/2077839461749338560?s=46&...

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by pmarreck »

dotancohen wrote: post #86
forkerenok wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wondered when the name change was coming because this is Google: products be endlessly repackaged and renamed, some only to be killed later.

> products be endlessly repackaged I don't speak English at home either, so I hope this helps. It's "products are", not "products be".

i’m thinking it’s an intentional turn of phrase

so for example in native English, if someone upset some people, you might say, just to be creatively different:

“oh boy. people be big mad”

it is an idiom, not necessarily officially part of the language. just saying things in a silly way to be different

“now you’ve done it… People be cryin’!”

I think it might also be an echo of pidgin English/Creole/caribbean English? Would be an interesting language dive. Ask an AI!

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by estearum »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #96
estearum wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This may come as a surprise, but some people have to ingest large amounts of information for reasons other than producing joy.

what do you think will come of the people who have to ingest large amounts of information for reasons other than producing joy, if the AI is ingesting large amounts of information for them? and anyway... the commenter is doing this for joy. so who, really, are you even talking about? why be snarky? i agree, your AI is going to make the tedium in your job easier.

Probably nothing good, but that's not the complaint being raised!

> and anyway... the commenter is doing this for joy. so who, really, are you even talking about?

I don't see evidence of that?

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

#100

Post by PiersonMarks »

NoImmatureAdHom wrote: post #20

I'd like to have audio overviews of scientific papers, so I can "read" them while I drive. NotebookLM/Gemini Notebook sorta does this, but the two-person podcast format is kind of annoying and it can't pronounce math. Is there something out there that will do this? I'm sure the right harness around frontier models would make it work.

Paper2Audio is great - and if you're looking to have more editorial control over the outputs, check out Jellypod. You can choose your hosts, publish it to a website/RSS feed, edit scripts, etc.
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