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'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Very unintentionally funny for you to say this here of all places.

is it? from where I stand, hn seems to be one of the exceptionally few remaining places where the mods don't take sides so the obnoxious minority doesn't get to win arguments by silencing everyone else like they do everywhere else.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Sabotage works by introducing friction into your opponents activities. Sabotaging one piece of one data center doesn't do much, but the more you do, the more outsized the impact. Imagine I'm a factory building widgets. If I buy materials, my default assumption is that I get the materials I asked for. If 5% of the time, or even 1% of the time, my vendor sends me junk that breaks my machines, now I have to introduce a…

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Too bad all those Nazi saboteurs back in the 1940’s weren’t all caught and dealt with! (Right?)

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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> There’s an acute water shortage in The Netherlands right now. When I open BlueSky, everyone is talking about water being increasingly wasted on cooling data centres. And for what? To generate more AI shit. Ah, the water-use BS again. In Europe, other than in the US, water use for data centers is strictly regulated. You cannot just do open-loop cooling and use a tap-water -> chiller -> sewer line. Things have to be…

I have a friend (engineer) working on a data center in Texas. It is closed loop. What’s interesting is the chillers have so much condensation that they pump it out to sprinklers which water the desert which now has grass growing. So at least water doesn’t seem to be as big of an objection now. Power though? Still a problem.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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So basically you think burning down an oil company HQ increases climate change?

That sounds likely to be true. They'll move operations to a temporary building while they build a new one. To some extent their ability to make plans will be disrupted, but the effect those plans would have had on the climate is unknown: the result is just that the oil company behaves in a more stupid and poorly-planned way, while doing some extra construction.

What if every time the oil company got a new HQ, it burned down? Would that increase or decrease climate change?

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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post #132

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Too bad all those Nazi saboteurs back in the 1940’s weren’t all caught and dealt with! (Right?)

I am not sure what point you are making.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Did the Data Center get canceled? If not, then no it is not ruined and instead what's going to happen? Is someone's going to scrape up a whole bunch of that concrete releasing a whole bunch of carbon dioxide and then someone's going to pour down some more concrete which will increase the CO2 in the atmosphere.

This would still pollute less than the usage of the center. You're underestimating how much energy they use once active.

You are underestimating how much co2 is released during ciment production and overestimating what is released by powering datancenters.

In 2024, datancenter have consumed 1% of the total worldwide electricity production and are responsible for 0.5% of the co2 emissions.¹

1- https://www.carbonbrief.org/ai-five-charts-that-put-data-cen...

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Sabotage works by introducing friction into your opponents activities. Sabotaging one piece of one data center doesn't do much, but the more you do, the more outsized the impact. Imagine I'm a factory building widgets. If I buy materials, my default assumption is that I get the materials I asked for. If 5% of the time, or even 1% of the time, my vendor sends me junk that breaks my machines, now I have to introduce a…

This is also all the sabotage the saboteurs have volunteered to tell you about. If your opsec has allowed sabotage to happen, it’s prudent to assume there’s other sabotage you don’t know about.

Since the saboteurs are protesters they want to be loud and reveal everything they did (but not how, or their individual identities).

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Too bad all those Nazi saboteurs back in the 1940’s weren’t all caught and dealt with! (Right?)

I am not sure what point you are making.

Lots of people sabotaged the Nazis. You think they need to be dealt with on the harshest terms.
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