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If they really wanted to have an impact on data center construction, they'd sneakily spill some silicone oil in semiconductor fab cleanrooms.
Level of effort is a thing.
EDIT: And Cryo32 said the same thing elsewhere, a few minutes ago!
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Are we talking about the environmental impact? Or are we talking about the vandalism perpetrated by activists? Attention on the protestors is not necessarily attention on the protestors' cause.
> Are we talking about the environmental impact? Yes, obviously. Scroll up or down.
Right, all they're going to do is rip the concrete out and repour it, causing even more damage to the environment (concrete production and curing is unbelievably C02 intensive) I don't disagree we shouldn't be expanding power consumption unless we've moved the vast majority (>90%) of the load off fossil fuels, but this certainly didn't help anything.
This is too dismissive of the impact. Datacenter builders now have to add security so it doesn't happen a second time, perhaps even add it in more places around the world, and the overall attractiveness of building a datacenter in the region go down. The CO2 not emitted by opening a later easily offsets curing by orders of magnitude. To fully model it you'd have to account for the demand being moved as other centers…
Right, all they're going to do is rip the concrete out and repour it, causing even more damage to the environment (concrete production and curing is unbelievably C02 intensive) I don't disagree we shouldn't be expanding power consumption unless we've moved the vast majority (>90%) of the load off fossil fuels, but this certainly didn't help anything.
Sabotage works by introducing friction into your opponents activities. Sabotaging one piece of one data center doesn't do much, but the more you do, the more outsized the impact. Imagine I'm a factory building widgets. If I buy materials, my default assumption is that I get the materials I asked for. If 5% of the time, or even 1% of the time, my vendor sends me junk that breaks my machines, now I have to introduce a…
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Maybe the loom smashers should have won. I'm not sure we ended up on the better timeline.
Prior to industrialization everyone was broke and people regularly starved. If the loom smashers had their way, we'd still be dirt farmers living in abject poverty.
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You mean the wealth gained by the ruling nobility of the time. As they said, the loom operators were worked to the bone for almost no pay.
No, I mean the wealth you and I have right now. All of it - the car, the iPhone, the healthcare, the indoor plumbing, the air conditioner, the closet full of clothes - is only possible because of automation.
> In recent years, people from Extinction Rebellion Netherlands have focused heavily on large scale disruptive action of ‘business as usual’. Everyone talking about how stupid and ineffective this is. The whole point is to interrupt business as usual to draw attention to the stupidity of our continued head in the sand path. The damage (or lack thereof) is largely irrelevant. The fact a regular person is risking jail…
I hope they look very carefully how this was organized, where the money came from.
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You mean the wealth gained by the ruling nobility of the time. As they said, the loom operators were worked to the bone for almost no pay.
No, I mean the wealth you and I have right now. All of it - the car, the iPhone, the healthcare, the indoor plumbing, the air conditioner, the closet full of clothes - is only possible because of automation.
Ruining concrete seems to go against extinction rebellion main goal. According to the World Economic Forum the co2 released during ciment production account for 8% of global co2 emissions, datancenter are estimated to contribute between 1 and 2 percent.... Math is not theirs forte!
Well they didn't ruin a batch of cement at a cement plant did they? They ruined a datacenter construction project, specifically.