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'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by Legend2440 »

inigyou wrote: post #109
Legend2440 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, people who live in areas that are poorly industrialized (Africa, India, etc) and whose lives have not yet been blessed with automation.

They are not "poorly industrialised", they are the other half of industrialisation. Think of the Rick and Morty episode where they split themselves into good halves and bad halves.

The industrialization of rich nations did not make Africa poor.

Once upon a time, everyone was poor. Then, some countries industrialized and others didn't. The ones that didn't are still poor today.

Some countries like China have recently pulled themselves out of poverty through industrialization. Someday Africa will do the same.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by skeaker »

holbrad wrote: post #87
skeaker wrote: post #57

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Yep. Even in very red areas like Texas, isn't the public opinion something like 95% opposed? City councils keep allowing it despite this, clearly due to bribes. Whole situation sucks.

I mean bribes can be good. Sure you can build a data center near me, if your going to fund a new swimming pool and library with the taxes you pay. Also I get reduced local taxes? Even better! Infrastructure building would be a whole lot easier, if people could directly tie it to tangible benefits.

If you think bribes are at all going to the constituents, you don't understand what a bribe is. This is a very different thing from them paying taxes back into the city.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by skeaker »

Manuel_D wrote: post #92
skeaker wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are we talking about the environmental impact? Yes, obviously. Scroll up or down.

I mostly see commenters quipping about how this will just mean the concert will have to be re poured, resulting in yet more emissions. The bulk of the comments are about the protestors, not the environmental impact of this data center.

Emphasis on "mostly" meaning that you do see people talking about the impact. There you go.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by TiredOfLife »

namuol wrote: post #44

I suspect many HN commenters would be surprised to learn just how much the general public are on the side of these activists, condoning if not outright applauding their actions.

Same with anti vaxxers, 5g truthers and Trump voters

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by inigyou »

Legend2440 wrote: post #111
inigyou wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not "poorly industrialised", they are the other half of industrialisation. Think of the Rick and Morty episode where they split themselves into good halves and bad halves.

The industrialization of rich nations did not make Africa poor. Once upon a time, everyone was poor. Then, some countries industrialized and others didn't. The ones that didn't are still poor today. Some countries like China have recently pulled themselves out of poverty through industrialization. Someday Africa will do the same.

Oh. What are the cobalt mines for then? Why were countries called banana republics?

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by jandeboevrie »

thyristan wrote: post #52

> There’s an acute water shortage in The Netherlands right now. When I open BlueSky, everyone is talking about water being increasingly wasted on cooling data centres. And for what? To generate more AI shit. Ah, the water-use BS again. In Europe, other than in the US, water use for data centers is strictly regulated. You cannot just do open-loop cooling and use a tap-water -> chiller -> sewer line. Things have to be…

Source?

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by skeaker »

mc32 wrote: post #71
skeaker wrote: post #47

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I suppose if you're one of the people that live near where it would be built it might be worth sabotaging it if only to go another week without the incessant hum and brown, filthy tap water.

It’s port area. Are you certain the protestors/saboteurs were locals?

A port area that uses the same water infrastructure that runs to residential areas, yes. The saboteurs are not named but I would wager that the Dutch group talked about in the article recruited from the area, yes.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by skeaker »

vitalyan8184 wrote: post #38
junaru wrote: post #19

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Yeah people will hear about this and subscribe to chatgpt pro in spite. You have to be special to think this is comparable to paint throwing on works of art or blocking public roads. Everyone outside tech hates AI.

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Very unintentionally funny for you to say this here of all places.

Re: 'We used acid to sabotage Microsoft hyperscale data centre construction'

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Post by skeaker »

appreciatorBus wrote: post #70
bix6 wrote: post #56

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No. Industrial vs consumer use is night and day. Industrial has much higher draw of resources and should pay more as a result especially when total capacity needs to increase specifically for them.

The reason an industrial use uses x times more than a consumer is because the industry is selling products and services to x consumers. You can't compare them 1:1.

Exactly, you can't compare them and they should therefore be treated differently.
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