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> mainstream psychiatry never supported nor endorsed Oh, but they most certainly do! The Chemical Imbalance issue was always the first and last and best explanation from the lips of the psychologists, psychiatrists, pharmacists, researchers, friends and family. All who unanimously urged me and others to take medications that would somehow magically resolve these imbalances and thus put me and my mind on the straight-…
While I certainly sympathize with your distaste for certain institutions and traditions within the medical industry, I feel compelled to share that you do seem -- if ever so slightly -- imbalanced.
Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important
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Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Pushing back on it is seen as pointless and unhelpful at best, and "anti-woke" aggression at worst. Ask yourself what you are fighting for there. Personally, I'm fighting for the idea that words mean things, and the 2nd best word wont do. I have multiple people tell me I'm doing it wrong, no matter which it is. If I'm going to change what I'm doing, I don't want to pick the worst option. More often than not, when s…
> Personally, I'm fighting for the idea that words mean things, and the 2nd best word wont do. Now ask if this battle is worth fighting with someone that is actually "just trying to do the right thing," on the front lines of gritty social work, and who may not care as deeply about the philosophical implications of linguistic prescriptivism at hand. I can't really imagine what nefarious purposes someone might have in…
Already asked and answered, rhetorically speaking. Because I don't care what their value system is, so much as feel it's important to stand within mine. I've done social work before; for about 4mo. Couldn't stand it, will never do it again. Am I greatful for OP for doing something I was unable to do? I was before they decided that I was asking in bad faith. Now I don't respect their opinion at all; (another critical internal value of mine, that I'm sure many people expect me to abandon for their benefit, but I've decided I'd rather ~~politely~~ rudely decline).
Which one of us is right? Or actually , I'd like to assert that what the other person cares about isn't a meaningful question in this specific context. Ideally, we'd each be allowed to spend our time on the hills we wish to die on, even if the other cares about a different hill.
If you don't care, let some who does care reply, for an open, public conversation, it's more respectful to ignore topics you don't care about enough to engage in. If some social worker doesn't care about my linguistic prescriptivision, it becomes better for someone that does to respond.
> I cat't really imagine what nefarious purposes someone might have in trying to control you into using the word unhoused vs. homeless, it doesn't seem to me an important hill to die on in this context.
I like my word better. I don't think it's nefarious. But it doesn't have to be. I like my word better. People are allowed to be wrong on the internet, and people are allowed to like things you don't.
Despite what OP may or may not want to believe, I actually care very deeply about avoiding needlessly offending people. But unfortunately for this example conversation, I've also been exposed to far too many people who get off on control for the sake of control. And have developed an unnatural aversion to it. Unlike most people, who I believe aren't willing to die on any hill, I'm actually willing to a hill. You might find my hills arbitrary and capricious, but I feel the same way about the hills you want to die on. And critically, no respect for people not willing to die on any hill.
I prefixed my original question with "that asshole" because I actually wanted half the reply I got, if op didn't give a shit, I was hoping/expecting him to ignore me, and for someone else (e.g. you) who's the willing to explain something seemingly obvious to me. "Oh, he's one of those assholes, I have more important things than to waste my time on him", contrasted with your response, which risked wasting time on a possible asshole, because maybe they are actually trying, and deserve some kind of helpful reply.
I'm weird, I can be insulted by specific people who I respect, but rarely offended. I'm blind to whatever nuance that causes normal people to be mad over words. I'm more likely to get mad if someone uses a misleading word but never a rude or insulting one. Rude doesn't register, I'm mentally incapable, I have to go out of my way, to figure it out. I find, for whatever reason, I can *only* use the most correct word, if you want my most correct to be non-offensive, I need to be able to understand exactly why. "It's the new political correct word? Oh is it? Holy shit, I'd better use the new word!" Is how I assume, (for comedic effect), everyone else is able to adopt a new word. My brain refuses to comply with that. I need something concrete to change my behavior. It's a defect I'm aware of, so it's just easier to describe myself as an asshole. Because it's obvious to the people who can see though it, and saves time with the people who can't and would just get mad at me at the end. Saves us both time if it's the prefix. I'm also used to people assuming bad faith, but still I'm never able to figure out why.
Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important
#293The author should probably read The Checklist Manifesto. It's a great book that has some excellent advice about getting things done with higher quality by, not surprisingly given the title, using checklists.
Item two: forget this checklist exists
I mostly kid. My life is ruled by checklist, alarms, and calendars. I have a single notebook with a carry forward pressing items style checklist. Two columns: priority and keep in mind. I have to abandon it quarterly because i cannot do everything on the lists.
Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important
#294I know this pattern from myself. I'm doing alright as far as my career goes, not great, but okay. Which is disappointing because me and everyone around thought I'd do great, because I/they thought I was a great software developer, since I'm smart and I know my tech and my programming. Unfortunately working as a software developer is a different story entirely, I found many times that my chase for good simple code tak…
> Turns out I have ADHD You just magically found this out when the Mental Health Diagnosis Fairy visited you one night? You spent thousands of dollars for a neuropsych evaluation where the result was 40% reality, 40% chance, and 20% how the evaluator was feeling that day? You self-diagnosed by reading Reddit threads? You somehow magically found the one psychiatrist who is willing to talk about ADHD without immediatel…
I don't live in the US, my experience comes from the Netherlands.
I was having hard time dealling with the Covid period, and was having lots of anxiety regarding my work and proeutivy so I reached out to my GP. Talked and had sessions with 2 different psycologists over a year, both suggested to ask a referral to an ADHD specific clinic.
Since I did not want medication I never followed through. Fast forward a few years I reached out to a GP because I was thinking the ADHD "assesment" was correct. Followed up with another GP, they were super kind took my ADHD concerns seriously specially since I wanted to avoid medication first. Got referred to a psicology practice that followed me for 8 weeks, after they they also gave insurance a note that it was possible ADHD and followed me up with a different referal to a different clinic more specialized again.
So no I don't have an ADHD "certificate" to hang on the wall, but I have talked with enough professionals that think that might be the case.
Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important
#295Mirror: https://archive.ph/LlX04
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#296This could be due to ADD, I am still getting tested. Granted, that's a diagnosis, not a root cause. No, it’s a diagnosis of the root cause - in fact, it is plausibly the root cause of everything else described in the post. Inability to complete work, procrastination/distraction by focusing on nearby tasks, the pervasive sense that you struggle with things that other people do not, even the depression (untreated ADD c…
ADHD is a real condition, but the terminology is so muddled that any number of underlying problems can manifest as lack of attention and be called "ADHD", putting off any ability to truly recover for years or decades. I should have been more suspicious when stimulant medication had no long-term effect on my performance, even though it has helped actual sufferers of ADHD. My own problem was elsewhere.
Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
> HN comments are _NOT_ going to help debugging your mental state. Nice paradox you've created there. > People here have trouble agreeing on engineering, product and business practices they specialise in. They are _NOT_ going to guide you in the right direction on mental health topics. I don't know that that follows logically. Whatever people they might reach out to in the real world -- be they friends, relatives, th…
Ooh, slick rhetorical moves you just executed. You couched your comment in the jargon of formal logic, and in doing so situated the parent under a convenient ad-hoc pseudo-formalization where you could paint them a raving illogical, thereby dismissing most of what they wrote through low-effort counterexamples. Mathematical certainty on your side, you make a chivalrous concession to the parent, reinforcing your noble-…
> low-effort counterexamples
If low-effort counterexamples could be made, then the argument wasn't strong to begin with.
> my interpretation of what the parent wrote
Well your interpretation would be considered incorrect by most reasonable people. "HN comments are _NOT_ going to help debugging your mental state" is not a warning, it's an opinionated declaration.
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Yep - meds. Tried a bunch and duloxetine is making a massive difference for me. On them for 4 months so far. Also picked up therapy yet again but tbh I never found therapy to really solve things - it helps me understand myself better at a logical level but the underlying anxiety / depression (including suicidal ideation) has never really gone away until the meds. I'd say right now I'm feeling quite content with life,…
> I'm still trying to understand this new reality as I'm not used to it at all. I'm having a similar issue with ADHD meds, which is that we randomly settled on one that made me feel incredibly "normal" (ie not nerdy) but now my lifestyle totally doesn't match that so I need to redo everything. Still in progress, I've always had winter depression and likely need to be on something for that as well.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I certainly sympathize with your distaste for certain institutions and traditions within the medical industry, I feel compelled to share that you do seem -- if ever so slightly -- imbalanced.
That seems like a high horse you’re on, how did you get up there?
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Yes, people. Friends, coworkers, family.
I think a lot of people with mental health problems could attest that this is not always very effective, most often you exchange the reality you’ve been living in for some kind words and then inevitably the normalisation of your problem.
Gotta start somewhere. And the best thing to do is to try lots of doors.