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Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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Excited for the deepseek release this week (or at least they announced they'd release this week). Hopefully they also push even closer to SOTA.

That is exciting! I don't understand how DeepSeek can be so cheap with their cache pricing - ~0.003 usd / 1Mtok. 100x less than Kimi K3, or similar numbers against pretty much any other decently sized model to my knowledge. I've been using it whenever possible as even longer agent sessions cost few cents.

What provider are you using?

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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More details: - https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart - https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/pricing/chat-k3 1M context, pricing is $3/$15 for 1M tokens (cache $0.3), which is extremely high for a Chinese open-weight model, but if it's truly competitive with most of the current frontier and is only behind Fable/Sol, the pricing is justified. This is 1:1 pricing of Anthropic's Sonnet series (except Sonnet 5…

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Or just host it yourself or on your country's cloud provider once they release the weights.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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> > ...ranks second only to Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol. So... it ranks THIRD?

USSR is proud to announce that they won 2nd place in an Olympic contest. The filthy USA regime? Next to last! (There were only two countries competing in said event)

Apple proudly announced they won 2nd place in a competition among smartphone OSes.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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Here you go https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered

I'll see your simonw tool and raise you one that actually works: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&ai=exclude I's not just matching against titles. Ironically, I have an agent running daily scans, reading the contents of the top 200 stories of the day. It auto screens high-confidence ones and I make judgement calls on like 10-20 of them per day.

Right now, that site doesn't show this post, regardless of whether the filter is active or not ...

So, it's impossible to know whether your filter is working on this story yet, either.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is exciting! I don't understand how DeepSeek can be so cheap with their cache pricing - ~0.003 usd / 1Mtok. 100x less than Kimi K3, or similar numbers against pretty much any other decently sized model to my knowledge. I've been using it whenever possible as even longer agent sessions cost few cents.

What provider are you using?

DeepSeek's own API

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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> In our evaluations, Kimi K3 delivers frontier-level performance. Among the models tested, its overall intelligence ranks second only to Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol. For the complete benchmark results, see our tech blog. The full model weights of Kimi K3 will be released in the coming days. More details on the architecture, training, and evaluation will be published together with the Kimi K3 technical report. > K…

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