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Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by azinman2 »

piokoch wrote: post #470
this_user wrote: post #223

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You misunderstand Musk's motivation. This was never about money for him, but about control over a key technology. One of the main reasons he exited OpenAI was the fact that the other co-founders wanted to create a structure where no one, Musk included, would be able to seize full control of the company. That was the thing that prompted him to leave, which tells you a lot about what he really wanted in the first place…

There is also a simpler explanation that does not make Musk looking like an evil wrongdoer - Musk is working on human-shape robots, for this he needs AI. BTW. Musk started electric cars revolution (which is supposed to help the planet?), he made space flights way cheaper and accessible, his Starlink/Starshield saved Ukraine from being defeated right away by Russia, but, because of his political views, he is considere…

He didn’t start Tesla, he bought it. To his credit he probably saved it. But we also don’t have the counter factual.

“Because of his political views” This is a beyond charitable take. He brought in a chainsaw to the US gov (literally and figuratively), after buying his way in with trump with his 250M donation to create a new part of gov that was not democratically assembled. This isn’t just him tweeting a perspective.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by cliglot »

> after buying his way in with trump with his 250M donation to create a new part of gov that was not democratically assembled

I’ll add: after these people spent years whining about “unelected bureaucrats”.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by imron »

buremba wrote: post #178
guessmyname wrote: post #150

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Pi is good in concept, but why couldn’t they choose a compiled language instead of TypeScript?

For TUIs, Rust/Go vs Typescript doesn't really makes a huge performance difference and you lose the 50x bigger community advantage of Typescript.

It makes a huge memory difference.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by wyre »

guessmyname wrote: post #150
buremba wrote: post #118

I would recommend using https://pi.dev/ over Grok Build with your xAI subscription at this point

Pi is good in concept, but why couldn’t they choose a compiled language instead of TypeScript?

I agree, but there are a lot of great reasons for TypeScript:

It's hot reloadable, so any modifications an agents makes can be surfaced in the active session.

Nearly everything is already written in TS which makes integrating Pi into other software, or other software into Pi much easier.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by buremba »

imron wrote: post #634
buremba wrote: post #178

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For TUIs, Rust/Go vs Typescript doesn't really makes a huge performance difference and you lose the 50x bigger community advantage of Typescript.

It makes a huge memory difference.

Not really because you're not building a database or GUI app where using native elements & data structures help a lot with memory pressure.

TUI renderer is the one using the memory heavily so your terminal takes the heavy lifing. If you're managing the buffers and out-of-screen context good enough, Typescript can be pretty efficient.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by skeptic_ai »

simonw wrote: post #299

There's some surprising stuff in this codebase. For example, https://github.com/xai-org/grok-build/blob/b189869b7755d2b48... is a "self-contained terminal renderer for Mermaid diagrams", which renders a subset of Mermaid chart types using Unicode box-drawing.

How could be a fork outside of this repo? “ This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may belong to a fork outside of the repository.”

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by numpad0 »

vidarh wrote: post #592
numpad0 wrote: post #575

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This isn't a renderer bug, it's font. Proportional fonts aren't designed with alignment in mind at all, and you can't just expect monospace fonts for all languages outside of ASCII range to be present on random systems, or a single font or font family to support multiple different languages consistently. You can't really control alignment of deeply Unicode characters like Thai or "→" against monospace characters with…

You can still handle this well enough in the renderer, so I'd still consider this a renderer bug - e.g. my terminal emulator will scale any glyph that exceeds the bounding box as defined by the expected number of cells for a given character range. You can't expect any given feature of random characters to align, but I can expect box drawing characters surrounding any given characters to align correctly or consider it…

ok... I disagree, and I mean no offense, but there's going to be too much contexts and nuances to be taken into account that it's probably not worth trying for both of us. All I can say is that the problem is not that the pipe characters are given inconsistent width but that non-ASCII characters has all different random widths, and if you need texts with double-width characters like ▶, 漢, ก, etc., to align in a grid, you have to pick a fixed-width(not "monospace") font for the specific language and exclusively use that font for everything within that contiguous text area. Or you can try to fix Unicode so that symbols become variable width so to align to grid or something, but that's going to take a lot of effort.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by qlte »

conorcleary wrote: post #589
rynn wrote: post #389

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That doesn’t mean they won’t be, or that the forks won’t be good.

all those youtube videos people upload nowadays aren't worth it, we already have keyboardcat (^ basically telling ppl creativity is done with, don't bother)

The parent comment is just pointing out that LLM written forks pushed out within hours of a “buzzy” repo release on GitHub are a pretty useless signal for gauging actual adoption/interest.

Which is, IMO, accurate based on the state of the AI dev space in 2026. Stars/forks drafting off the hype from a well known name are constantly gamed for eyeballs/personal brand-building courtesy of free advertising via the Github UI when the only cost is a few sentence prompt and some tokens.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by antonvs »

mlindner wrote: post #420
LastTrain wrote: post #256

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It’s a shame that their leader exfiltrated government data.

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How do you know? Presumably you must be able to point to some government transparency documentation about that activity?

Oh wait, nothing like that exists. You don't know what happened. And that's the problem. Neither Musk nor Trump are the CEO of the US. Their behavior should not be considered acceptable by any US citizen.

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