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Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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And yet Sony wonders why people pirate their movies. In this case here the owners who had their movies stolen should be able to steal them back.

If you cared enough, I do wonder if you could win in court, if you pirated a movie that you purchased on the PS5, but Sony removed. It would cost you an ungodly amount of money to defend yourself against Sony, and I don't know the exact words of the "license", but it seems like a reasonable action to take.

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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IANAL, but is it illegal to have a "Buy" button that is just a disguised "Rent" button? If not, should we change the law?

I'm hoping someday this will go the same way as other companies trying to redefine "unlimited", "free", or "lifetime". I hope lawyers reclaim "buy", "own", and "purchase" from shitbag marketers back into contract law, where they have English meanings. https://retailwire.com/t-mobile-att-verizon-fined-10-2m-for-... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/07/lawsuit-t-mobile... At the very least, if Sony yanks your pu…

A $10m fine for mobile telcos is a rounding error. “Softer quarter due to outstanding legal and regulatory obligations…” The fines need to be a standard percentage of income or the personal assets / freedom of officers needs to be on the line if we want those punishments to change behavior.

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say the future is cloud gaming.

Sadly, the future might be phone gaming. The mobile gaming market is as big as the console and PC markets combined.

Phone gaming with a USC-C display or simply cast to the TV, and Bluetooth remotes. It might not be as bad as it sounds. My phone has 12GB RAM, 256GB NVME SSD, a decent GPU and a dedicated AI chipset as well.

Sure, it won’t beat a tricked out gaming PC with some $4000 GPU in it, but it will probably be competitive with console gaming. Granted, the PS5 is 5-6 years old by now, but my phone has more power in every measure.

My “dream” everyday device is still a phone that docks with a display, keyboard and mouse, and magically transforms into a desktop OS. On the to mobile apps would allow access to the same data, but touch optimized instead.

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

California Assembly Bill 2426 (AB 2426), effective 1 January, 2025. Expands the state's false advertising laws to explicitly ban companies from using words like "buy," "purchase," "own," or "keep" if what the customer is actually getting is a revocable digital license governed by shady T&Cs.

Is it working/being enforced? Anecdotally I haven't seen or heard of any changes in verbiage, but I haven't been paying that much attention.

Steam/Valve follow the law: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/11/24267864/steam-buy-purch...

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's one thing. The other is price. Consoles can be sold at a loss, particularly early in their 10-year cycle, when early on the loss is high, but close to the end of the cycle the loss is minimal, and so they appear much cheaper.

This cycle is different. Prices have increased for both Sony and Microsoft’s consoles and no higher efficiency versions have been released (ala the PS3, X360).

Sony released the PS5 Slim earlier this cycle.

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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post #28

Isnt there an issue with "Buy" and different countries marketing laws? Ie it implies "Hold" or "TemporaryKeep". Guess it will be an upswing of BlueRay movies. Already happening with LPs and CDs

This anti-consumer stuff also applies to physical Blu-rays: each BD can contain a revocation list of player keys and distributor keys, and official players are required to update their keylists from that. Every time you insert a new disc in your player, you're playing russian roulette with your existing library.

How does that work if my player is offline? A dedicated BluRay player has no reason to connect to the internet.

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's one thing. The other is price. Consoles can be sold at a loss, particularly early in their 10-year cycle, when early on the loss is high, but close to the end of the cycle the loss is minimal, and so they appear much cheaper.

This cycle is different. Prices have increased for both Sony and Microsoft’s consoles and no higher efficiency versions have been released (ala the PS3, X360).

Isn’t PS5 Pro a higher efficiency version?

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Its all a bit hand wavy nonsense. Own a physical copy? How long until its unplayable because either the media corrupts or the player isn't available? The only real "ownership" is the IP, everything else is just renting.

own a physical copy, rip it into a digital format. legal and works pretty well to keep up with the times

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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I read recently that PlayStation users are moving to PC en masse, and also Xbox has been gutted by layoffs, and there's a backlash against Nintendo for the switch 2 pricing. Is the age of the console finally coming to an end?

That backlash was nearly entirely on that other social media website that HN hates being compared to. And yet again, not representative of actual people. The xbox part may be true. I’d be extremely surprised if any PlayStation users in volume move to PC, that might be another loud opinion from that crowd due to the physical disc outrage. They would pay twice as much, have a less seamless experience, and still have worse graphics/performance.

I say this as a primarily pc gamer. It’s not for most people.

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