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#622Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why when they can just fork it and improve it on their own with AI?
Subsidized tokens aren’t forever & local models might not compete with an entire team of volunteers, I’d guess.
> local models might
That was yesterday's "LLMs might". Time passes. Nothing stays the same. "Local models might" X Y or Z today has no influence on the limitations of tomorrow's local models except to remove them. Yesterday's LLMs are the exact same thing, except your computer is connected to their local model for you to use.
Disc drives used to be measured in megabytes—now in terabytes. Technically useful tend to get more optimized with time, not less.
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#623Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because a harness doesn't just "drive" the LLM. e.g., there's code in claude code that detects if the user's prompt shows they're angry, and they react to those prompts differently. (they use regex on "wtf", etc.!)
Claude also now ends the session if you curse at it too much. Not sure how it’s helpful but they must think it is.
probably so the bad conversations are less of the (future) training data
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#624This is not the right thing, this is the tactical thing. If you have an LLM with less than 1% of the share to begin with, you suffer from bad rep and you got caught uploading user data, one of the very few remaining tactical moves to try to climb out of it is this.
Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.
Lol. Not when you just told everyone that you're going to increase your revenue by 100 times over the next 4 years "bY uSiNG AI!!!"
Re: Grok Build is open source
#625This is not the right thing, this is the tactical thing. If you have an LLM with less than 1% of the share to begin with, you suffer from bad rep and you got caught uploading user data, one of the very few remaining tactical moves to try to climb out of it is this.
Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.
They've still managed to capture a slice of government business because they have explicitly aligned themselves with one of the two major American political parties.
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#626But I thought just cutting and pasting your whole source code file into grok.com was the way to go? Better than a harness like Cursor. https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1943178423947661609
every time he opens his mouth about software he shows he's a complete idiot
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#627Re: Grok Build is open source
#628Sigh, why has the industry converged on TUI? Branding and aesthetics over functionality? TUI is just much worse for me. I tried Codex CLI vs Codex UI and Codex UI beats it at every level.
no way man, the only thing I do outside a terminal is slack and web browsing.
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#629Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, then let’s just say CSAM by definition of US law. Twice now you’ve tried to expand the parameters of this so that it becomes something impossible to tackle. But there’s no actual reason to do that. Grok is able to tackle CSAM, as demonstrated by the fact that they are currently doing it . The question is why they ignored the very public issue for as long as they did.
> Ok, then let’s just say CSAM by definition of US law. “CSAM” isn’t a legal category under US law. “Child pornography” is a legal category under US law. But, according to the 2002 US Supreme Court case Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition (535 U.S. 234), so-called “virtual child pornography” (imagery produced by CGI or AI, not featuring the images of any identifiable real world minors), is (partially) protected [0] by…
> not featuring the images of any identifiable real world minors
Right... but the material Grok was producing was featuring real world minors. Again, you're trying really really hard to expand the definition of what we're talking about to give Grok a pass and I do not understand why.
Re: Grok Build is open source
#630Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what they did to upload a repo, the question is why they would upload the user's entire repo in the first place. The idea itself is egregious, and the implementation was horrifying on top of that.
'on startup, grok upload current directory for faster cache access' Was it intentional for data exfil? Only internal staff could answer.
The entire directory (not repo) and all repo history regardless of secrets or instructions otherwise is not needed for faster cache access. I'm not going to say that this was intentional exfiltration. Sneaky motivations are not needed for this to be a bad idea and a horrific implementation.