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SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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Re: SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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I don’t think scam is the right word. The valuation and bank price targets are absolutely insane. I myself could never invest at those multiples. I think they absolutely have governance problems but at the same time I have to admit he is a great financial engineer. Investors who do have conviction here most likely see this as the platform vehicle for everything else coming through the pipeline. Again I could not buy…

Can you spell out a bit more how these three thoughts live together consistently for you: 1) The price is insane 2) The price is a work of great financial engineering 3) The price isn’t a scam

If people have access to the information and the price reflects demand, then it feels more like “bad decision” than “scam”.

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“Shocking nobody” I would add… This is an obvious Musk scam and anyone with financial knowledge called it as such ever since it’s been on the table. Why else lobby and change the NASDAQ listing rules for instance?

Some would still say Tesla is a scam.

Re: SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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What you describe is exactly a scam: he somehow convinced you that he's not motivated by wealth! That alone is clearly a scam, the idea that Musk is not motivated by huge amounts of wealth and high valuations is just implausible considering g his behavior at every single turn.

What is he doing with all that wealth? Taking lavish vacations? Buying luxurious yacht? Buying islands and making bunkers?

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Re: SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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post #60

“Shocking nobody” I would add… This is an obvious Musk scam and anyone with financial knowledge called it as such ever since it’s been on the table. Why else lobby and change the NASDAQ listing rules for instance?

I don’t think scam is the right word. The valuation and bank price targets are absolutely insane. I myself could never invest at those multiples. I think they absolutely have governance problems but at the same time I have to admit he is a great financial engineer. Investors who do have conviction here most likely see this as the platform vehicle for everything else coming through the pipeline. Again I could not buy…

I guess the difference between "scam" and "financial engineer" is whether it works.

If everyone loses their money it will be a scam. If people get rich he will be a financial engineer.

These aren't two different things. The winning side will make up reasons why they are right, and the losing side will make up excuses why they were wrong.

Re: SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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Still far to high. I love SpaceX as in 'space', they were a great company, doing things nobody else could. Now its a dumb AI company that hands over cash to micron, nvidia and friends who literally print money, while financing that with delusional promises.

Many people can soon sell their SpaceX stock, I don't think the S&P will safe them later.

Re: SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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“Shocking nobody” I would add… This is an obvious Musk scam and anyone with financial knowledge called it as such ever since it’s been on the table. Why else lobby and change the NASDAQ listing rules for instance?

So I presume you made a lot of money shorting the stock if you were so confident?

The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent

Re: SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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post #149

“Shocking nobody” I would add… This is an obvious Musk scam and anyone with financial knowledge called it as such ever since it’s been on the table. Why else lobby and change the NASDAQ listing rules for instance?

So I presume you made a lot of money shorting the stock if you were so confident?

“The world can remain irrational longer than you can remain liquid.”

Re: SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading

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post #149

“Shocking nobody” I would add… This is an obvious Musk scam and anyone with financial knowledge called it as such ever since it’s been on the table. Why else lobby and change the NASDAQ listing rules for instance?

So I presume you made a lot of money shorting the stock if you were so confident?

Why would anyone want to risk any money going any way with these stocks?

Tesla isn’t behaving rationally, there is no way to tell whether SpaceX will behave rationally or not.

It seems like it’s becoming somewhat more rational, but all these stocks just seem to be incomprehensible to me.

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