Live data from Hacker News

At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

joinedanthropic.com

41–50 of 238 posts

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#41

Based on YC's directory, there are approximately 13,000 YC founders since YC started. 105/13000 is a very small number to focus on. This data doesn't really mean anything.

What I find more interesting is how many people have left big orgs where they had major leadership roles, to become ICs at Anthropic.

Probably because of stock options. Assuming the bubble bursts after the vesting period, they stand to make a looooooot of money on paper.

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#42

Based on YC's directory, there are approximately 13,000 YC founders since YC started. 105/13000 is a very small number to focus on. This data doesn't really mean anything.

What I find more interesting is how many people have left big orgs where they had major leadership roles, to become ICs at Anthropic.

[deleted]

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#43
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen many people climb the SWE ladder or build a YC company (having done both myself), and trust me the founder route is not the most efficient. You only believe this because you didn’t see the 2 failed startups and 10 year journey grinding 80h weeks almost running out of cash a few times. Jensen Huang himself says nobody in their right mind should start a company https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/05/11/jensen-huang…

What part of "start a company" requires "grinding 80h weeks"? Sounds to me as inability to delegate. Or implicit in the [acquire VC, aim for high growth] mindset as if that were the only path to success. Companies can grow organically. With a positive cash-flow early on & reasonable work/life balance for founders & employees alike. Heck, there's even non-profits.

> Companies can grow organically.

Yes they can, but unless you strike luck, they take many years, often decades of work to grow to a level where you can retire and enjoy the money.

With FIRE and similar concepts being pushed around everywhere, and the plight of the masses to keep their jobs and homes, I see where that desire for "make money fast" comes from. And from a game theory mindset - it's not wrong. (That is also a bit related to the explosion of gambling and gambling-alike stuff such as "prediction markets"...)

> Heck, there's even non-profits.

Non-profits often enough run on conditions bordering on (self-)exploitation.

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#44
post #16
post #10

Effectively, industry roles are a tiered system which determines access to the cashflow. Going the YC founder route is a much faster and more efficient way to secure a high tier than climbing the SWE ladder. The whole thing resembles a kind of mini class system, with high tiers granting access to generational wealth, and low tiers being better off than the average non-industry Joe. Once you're in the high tier, there…

I’ve seen many people climb the SWE ladder or build a YC company (having done both myself), and trust me the founder route is not the most efficient. You only believe this because you didn’t see the 2 failed startups and 10 year journey grinding 80h weeks almost running out of cash a few times. Jensen Huang himself says nobody in their right mind should start a company https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/05/11/jensen-huang…

[deleted]

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#45
The question I have is why are these companies hiring these people and what does it say about their hiring practices and the amount of capital they’re poorly spending?

It’s exceedingly unlikely that any of the people who were working on YC startups previously have any real professional experience with any of the following: slurm, collectives, NUMA systems, RDMA, compilers, systems programming, general HPC performance estimation or measurement, CUDA or ROCM or any kind of GPGPU/accelerated computing. But that is the core business of both of these companies.

I’m not surprised that these companies are well funded and hiring a lot of people. I’m surprised that they chose to hire the people who were previously making “Uber but for dogs” gimmick apps and not just hollowing out the HPC specialists from national labs.

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#46
post #16
post #10

Effectively, industry roles are a tiered system which determines access to the cashflow. Going the YC founder route is a much faster and more efficient way to secure a high tier than climbing the SWE ladder. The whole thing resembles a kind of mini class system, with high tiers granting access to generational wealth, and low tiers being better off than the average non-industry Joe. Once you're in the high tier, there…

I’ve seen many people climb the SWE ladder or build a YC company (having done both myself), and trust me the founder route is not the most efficient. You only believe this because you didn’t see the 2 failed startups and 10 year journey grinding 80h weeks almost running out of cash a few times. Jensen Huang himself says nobody in their right mind should start a company https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/05/11/jensen-huang…

Except that he did start a company so his comment is really saying you have to be crazy enough to start a company

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find more interesting is how many people have left big orgs where they had major leadership roles, to become ICs at Anthropic.

Is it interesting? They want to be rich.

Well yeah, but being a CTO at a major org isn't exactly a low-paying gig.

The interesting thing to me is that the belief that Anthropic is going achieve something like AGI appears to have really spread through SV. If not AGI, at least greatly disturb their old cushy SaaS jobs.

Also, I still do believe some people just want to work on "cool" stuff.

edit: not just CTOs and CPOs, I mean John freakin Jumper, who got the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry, left his VP role at DeepMind to have no reports, and be an IC at Anthropic.

I find this whole trend extremely interesting.

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#48

The question I have is why are these companies hiring these people and what does it say about their hiring practices and the amount of capital they’re poorly spending? It’s exceedingly unlikely that any of the people who were working on YC startups previously have any real professional experience with any of the following: slurm, collectives, NUMA systems, RDMA, compilers, systems programming, general HPC performance…

Silicon Valley is not about having specialists or knowledge. It's about having connections and charisma.

Is this causing massive problems for us as a society? Of course, but no one seems to want to do anything about it, so here we are.

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#49

Based on YC's directory, there are approximately 13,000 YC founders since YC started. 105/13000 is a very small number to focus on. This data doesn't really mean anything.

I wonder what the income distribution is like

90% of the wealth at the top 1%.

Re: At least 105 past YC founders have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic

#50

The question I have is why are these companies hiring these people and what does it say about their hiring practices and the amount of capital they’re poorly spending? It’s exceedingly unlikely that any of the people who were working on YC startups previously have any real professional experience with any of the following: slurm, collectives, NUMA systems, RDMA, compilers, systems programming, general HPC performance…

> I’m not surprised that these companies are well funded and hiring a lot of people. I’m surprised that they chose to hire the people who were previously making “Uber but for dogs” gimmick apps and not just hollowing out the HPC specialists from national labs.

Culture. The Uber for Dogs idiots will gulp down the kool-aid like they’re dying in the dessert.

Post reply on HN