At what point would one say that the LLM critics were wrong in their load-bearing (yes I used it) claims?
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#12Saying agents produce shitty code is a bad argument though. They produce shitty codebase organization, but at a micro level their code is solid if not elegant. If you let them turn your codebase into a spaghetti mess, that's on you.
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#13At what point would one say that the LLM critics were wrong in their load-bearing (yes I used it) claims?
If you have no critiques about a piece of technology in an area of technology that has existed for less than 10 years I think that speaks for itself.
- job displacement
- ethics
- environmental
- skill atrophy
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#15At what point would one say that the LLM critics were wrong in their load-bearing (yes I used it) claims?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have no critiques about a piece of technology in an area of technology that has existed for less than 10 years I think that speaks for itself.
so you are saying that the advent of internet also deserved criticism in much the same way as LLM's? - job displacement - ethics - environmental - skill atrophy
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#17At what point would one say that the LLM critics were wrong in their load-bearing (yes I used it) claims?
The desire to categorize people as right or wrong should be resisted. It's tangential, and distracts by feeding the tribalism part of the brain instead of considering individual things that are explicitly stated.
kinda shih people say after their Load Bearing Claims (thank you Opus 4.6) turned out wrong
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#20Ding ding ding. This is my biggest gripe with AI. Even the SEO blogspam, the fluff in front of every recipe, yarnwork or DIY instruction, it all was clearly written by a human. Someone had invested time (and money) in getting something in front of my eyes.
But now, it's all just slop. Everywhere. And hell I'm tired because the onslaught breaks my trust filters.
Maybe I think this is an age thing. Boomers? They trust everything written down somewhere. No matter what, and no matter if they didn't spend half my childhood to "never trust what people write on the Internet", and now they fall for scams left and right. My generation as said grew up with this "never trust, always verify" thing. And the younger generation? They DGAF about anything any more, all they care about is trying to survive.
> And b), the teaching, aka “How do we teach new people?”: previously, there was this balance aka “the junior does some pretty mundane tasks, but for this the senior reviews it together with him and helps him to grow”.
GOD YES YES YES THIS x1000.
There is barely anything more rewarding than teaching someone something, to watch the other person grow - and eventually surpassing your own abilities. That is when you know you did right and well. My wife is the best example, she started out at "can you help me with Excel", and these days, she pulls off stuff that would make more than a few finance people blush.