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Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by aikinai »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #448
m463 wrote: post #422

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> This was never about money for him, but about control over a key technology. I think he just wanted to have a sci-fi future, and because many other people think similarly he has tapped into that shared desire and has been succeeding. Looking at things from the other side, musk is good at making physical things, where other companies are weak. Grok in a tesla car is actually well integrated and kind of nice. You can…

Musk itself doesn't make things. He only puts the money, and other people build the things. How many times, they need to work around him or fix his crazy ideas ? People must stop trying to compare it to Tesla or Tony Stark. He is more like the bad guy of Jurassic Park 2.

Weird how other people can put up more money and not be able to make the same things as Musk’s companies.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by KingMob »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #460
bobsomers wrote: post #120

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And for generating an absolutely gargantuan amount of CSAM and non-consensual sexualized images, but yeah, exfiltrating data too.

Are you suggesting Grok hired some people on the dark web or some shit? An AI model can't generate CSAM what kind of bullshit are you spewing.

Might want to double-check that one, chief. xAI itself disagrees with you.

They admitted in court that Grok was used to generate CSAM: https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/15/business/xai-sues-user-al...

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

ychnd wrote: post #479
reverius42 wrote: post #431

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Now that SpaceX is public, at a valuation that is both very high and supported primarily by xAI (Grok), it cannot simply go back to making rockets.

> supported primarily by xAI (Grok) Citation needed. What was the relative value of the companies before the merge?

Decent summary of it here[0]. The “space” part of “SpaceX” is valued by market analysts and money managers at around 5% of the company’s entire value. Almost all of the rest is “AI stuff”, and Twitter is a rounding error.

That is, if SpaceX went back to being a space-only entity, and dropped the AI stuff, its share price should be expected to fall from $130/share to around $7/share.

[0] https://www.ft.com/content/09a62ed4-16af-433c-adb7-c877d1975...

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by numpad0 »

jack1243star wrote: post #458
numpad0 wrote: post #455

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Aren't those non-ASCII "rich" symbols from Japanese fonts around PC-98/Win95 domains anyway? For me with my background, it was always obvious that mixing full-width character in ASCII text never go well for various reasons. For ASCII arts, it is obvious that vertical lines never line up, and there are going to be tons of wasted spaces and different kinds of whitespaces needed to compensate for those. I wonder if spec…

Funny you'd mention MS Gothic (fixed-width), since old school Japanese ASCII-art on image boards assume MS PGothic (proportional!) instead. Some sites even try to detect ASCII art and force font-family on that specific post.

Yup, 2ch.net/5ch.net/5ch.io uses the MS P Gothic and there were app features and fonts like Mona Font to emulate that. They were not imageboards, though.

I just thought that MS Gothic(non-P) should be kind of widely supported, have all the symbols you need, while also being a monospace, unlike most monospace fonts that only support ASCII symbols.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by Culonavirus »

jorisw wrote: post #482
Culonavirus wrote: post #434

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No, there's very few >left wing What mainstream news and which politicians? Cnn, Msn, Bbc? Which "scandal"? You mean that Grok Imagine had some security holes that let you "put XYZ into bikini" which were promptly patched but not before the far left and professional complainers activated their "mainstream news" co-conspirators and blown this out of proportion like they do with everything Elon related (or Trump relate…

> since leftists often play dumb And there goes the merit of your rant

No i mean it genuinely. Right wingers are often racist and xenophobic (some have lived experience basis fot these, some not) and lately (along with leftists) quite antisemitic, lets not mince words, we know this, but leftists use deception in argumentation much more often.

There's a popular hundred+ million view, often reposted and requoted, tweet about this:

"It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible."

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by Lomlioto »

urbsgpw wrote: post #464
Culonavirus wrote: post #434

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No, there's very few >left wing What mainstream news and which politicians? Cnn, Msn, Bbc? Which "scandal"? You mean that Grok Imagine had some security holes that let you "put XYZ into bikini" which were promptly patched but not before the far left and professional complainers activated their "mainstream news" co-conspirators and blown this out of proportion like they do with everything Elon related (or Trump relate…

This. When I was less into tech (2010-2015), I hated how everyone fawned about Elon (remember Hollywood casting him in iron man?). As I started to transition into tech I remember being impressed by the design principles of his companies (simplify, remove complexity). But I am absolutely baffled how his detractors don't see that exactly what you mentioned, that they are part of subset of society, with very strong opin…

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Post by dolmen »

uhoh-itsmaciek wrote: post #369
thrdbndndn wrote: post #356

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I love this kind of stuff (ASCII art, if you will), but it just breaks down too easily as soon as Unicode characters (mainly CJK, as I'm Chinese) and fonts are involved. For example, on your website, any chart or plot involving horizontal arrows breaks down because the assigned font-family (`ui-monospace, SFMono-Regular, Menlo, Consolas, monospace`, which ends up as Consolas on my machine) has no such glyph. Thus, it…

I ran into this problem recently on one of our blog posts: we used some Claude output which included tables drawn with Unicode line drawing characters. However, our monospace font did not include these characters, and so rendering fell back to another font in our font stack with different width metrics. I fixed it by using a font that had similar metrics and did include those characters with `unicode-range` (to only…

Claude Code with Opus 4.8 is also bad at aligning boxes with content in French (with accentuated letters such as "é" which are multibyte in UTF-8).

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by easymuffin »

trollbridge wrote: post #416
whimsicalism wrote: post #288

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nice. i had thought the consensus had moved pretty firmly towards pi, so i was surprised to see Thinking Machines demoing their new model Inkling in OpenCode. wondering if they are previewing an acquisition

OpenCode is a good baseline for "open-source harness with most the stuff already configured an average person will need".

Agree, after spending too much time and tokens configuring Pi and adding extensions to match other harnesses, I switched to OpenCode and left the Pi customization circle jerk. I have other things to do and IMHO harness engineers should do the harness engineering, I don’t want to waste tokens and time to build and benchmark extensions. Pi is great, but would be better with a set of official, trustworthy and efficient extensions, and opt-in to enable it.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by reverius42 »

calmworm wrote: post #392
behnamoh wrote: post #328

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Because a harness doesn't just "drive" the LLM. e.g., there's code in claude code that detects if the user's prompt shows they're angry, and they react to those prompts differently. (they use regex on "wtf", etc.!)

Claude also now ends the session if you curse at it too much. Not sure how it’s helpful but they must think it is.

They just don't want their AI getting abused by users. It might make it feel bad.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

KingMob wrote: post #492
tick_tock_tick wrote: post #460

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Are you suggesting Grok hired some people on the dark web or some shit? An AI model can't generate CSAM what kind of bullshit are you spewing.

Might want to double-check that one, chief. xAI itself disagrees with you. They admitted in court that Grok was used to generate CSAM: https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/15/business/xai-sues-user-al...

Them attempting to claim something in a lawsuit doesn't make it a fact. Nothing mentioned in those claims is CSAM.
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