Boo, hiss. Permanent Standard Time is better in every way https://savestandardtime.com/
US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
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Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
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Or have a universal clock. But have regional start times. 9-5 makes no sense.
9-5 is a red herring for this topic - but why does it make no sense to you?
Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#103For night owls and teenagers, who already have a hard time in society, Daylight Saving Time makes things far worse. It’s been tried and failed, already, primarily due to school/kids issues. The sun will rise really, really late in the dead of winter in some places. Sleep experts are all pretty much in agreement that permanent Standard Time is better. I’d be all for permanent Standard Time but there’s no way that’ll h…
I wonder why we can't just push school back later in the winter? I guess that'd be a little disruptive to society (all the parents have to change their schedules depending on how it's implemented), but things are already disruptive with the time change, and summer vacation schedules, and so on.
Just spitballing, I'd prefer permanent Standard Time myself too.
Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are aware that at least much of Europe uses a similar system to what the US uses today?
Europe is less than 8% of the world's population. The vast majority of the world uses standard time. It works. No one there pines for permanent daylight time. Europe is wrong 50% of the time. The US[1] will be wrong 100% of the time. It can mostly get away with this because it spans the continent. But still, you're going to deal with the stupidity that crossing the Mexican border you will always have to correct your…
Timezones are political, there are many cities and countries that are an hour or more west of the timezone implied by their longitude, which is equivalent to permanent daylight time, even if they don't call it permanent daylight time.
Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe is less than 8% of the world's population. The vast majority of the world uses standard time. It works. No one there pines for permanent daylight time. Europe is wrong 50% of the time. The US[1] will be wrong 100% of the time. It can mostly get away with this because it spans the continent. But still, you're going to deal with the stupidity that crossing the Mexican border you will always have to correct your…
> The vast majority of the world uses standard time. It works. No one there pines for permanent daylight time. Timezones are political, there are many cities and countries that are an hour or more west of the timezone implied by their longitude, which is equivalent to permanent daylight time, even if they don't call it permanent daylight time.
Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#106Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#107Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…
Okay, so you travel from, say, Washington DC to NYC and then you have to set your clock back by... I think it's like 13 minutes? Which is why railroads started instituting time zones in the late 19th century: because it turns out having to recalibrate your watch every hour or so is a recipe for creating train crashes. Railroad time didn't become standard time until the early 20th century, in large part because a lot…
Right now DC's true noon is more than an hour off. That's too much. (Where I live, my true noon is always ~30 minutes off, both in standard and dst, so I can't complain.)
Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#108Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…
Or have a universal clock. But have regional start times. 9-5 makes no sense.
(To prove it, open finder or explorer and look at a file's modified time. Then change your time zone. You might need to refresh the window. You can even select UTC as your computer's time zone. It's how some cloud servers operate.)
Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#109Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…
Ideal and impractical. Even with modern wifi. Why not have your own timezone based on where you are standing right now? Oh, right, because that's the opposite of universal (or at least worldwide). One-hour shifts are manageable. One-minute shifts between population centers are not. Your meeting would start at precisely 8:03:38, your time. The business you are calling would close its doors 13 minutes before 5 pm.
Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent
#110Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…
that became an issue with the introduction of trains and their schedule. how do you think this would work today with our interconnected world? we absolutely need standardized times or everything falls apart.