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Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by brokencode »

dijit wrote: post #247
brokencode wrote: post #225

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Elon himself promoted Grok’s “spicy mode” that allowed generating NSFW content that the other AI vendors wouldn’t touch with a 20 foot pole. Believe whatever you want. Elon’s beliefs and personality problems have been baked into the core of Grok, so it’s no surprise that it turned out to be a CSAM-generating MechaHitler that steals people’s data. Anybody surprised when Grok turns out to be trash really should read up…

Tumblr also permitted some more risqué content. Yet we (rightly) condemned those that used this leniency to do nefarious things. I'm really ready to get on the Elon hate train, and I will grant you that there was a problem that needs fixing, but I'm really not happy with the amount of censorship on these generative AI platforms. Groks harness also clearly biases towards Elons views, Yet the washington post claims it'…

I also don’t think one mistake should define a company. But for me it’s just about trust.

Musk has proven time after time that he doesn’t deserve my trust. I will never trust Grok as long as he’s in charge of it.

I agree that the guardrails on the top models have gotten out of hand, though.

Fable for instance won’t answer even basic health questions. As if you are going to take nutrition advice and make a bioweapon with it.

Partly this is due to government interference. Hopefully we get to a better place as competition heats up with open and Chinese models.

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

anonym29 wrote: post #246
verandaguy wrote: post #238

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Nah. They're all rotten to the core, just in different ways. The key difference between xAI and Anthropic/OAI/Google is that xAI has the least-likely path to existing as viable business in a decade. That said, the economics of the entire AI industry are kinda made up at this point, so who really knows; it's quite possible that the players with the best odds of surviving the crash are those that can draw funding from…

>The key difference between xAI and Anthropic/OAI/Google is that xAI has the least-likely path to existing as viable business in a decade. I don't know, renting out a fleet of GPUs at annualized rate of ~100% of the capex deployed to obtain said GPUs seems reasonably better than lighting hundreds of billions of dollars on fire in order to earn tens of billions of dollars.

The GPUs that depreciate like gangbusters. Yeah, solid long term plan.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by grepex »

maxloh wrote: post #259
guessmyname wrote: post #150

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Pi is good in concept, but why couldn’t they choose a compiled language instead of TypeScript?

Opencode is written in Go.

It is written in Typescript.

https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode

There is an archived Opencode project written in Go but I don't think it is affiliated.

https://github.com/opencode-ai/opencode

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by Sajarin »

Just blogged about this here[0] but at least they're not doing the usual canned PR response surrounding this.

Folks are already building on top of it:

thedavidweng/gork-build[1] — rebrand grok→"gork", stripped vendor telemetry, opt-out-only data retention, blocks x.ai auto-update. A "VSCodium-style privacy fork."

DigiGoon/digi-grok-build[2] — "dgrok" multi-provider CLI, builds from source instead of x.ai CDN.

victor-software-house/open-grok[3] — "opened to every provider."

LukaMucko/grok-build[4] — extra_body support for provider-specific request fields.

RapidAI/grok-build-desktop[5] — Tauri desktop GUI client.

mazdak/grok-build[6] — theming (Catppuccin).

thomas9120/grok-build-archival[7] — Windows telemetry-disable script.

saqoah/grok-build[8] — Kotlin MemoryBackend.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48928913

[1] https://github.com/thedavidweng/gork-build

[2] https://github.com/DigiGoon/digi-grok-build

[3] https://github.com/victor-software-house/open-grok

[4] https://github.com/LukaMucko/grok-build

[5] https://github.com/RapidAI/grok-build-desktop

[6] https://github.com/mazdak/grok-build

[7] https://github.com/thomas9120/grok-build-archival

[8] https://github.com/saqoah/grok-build

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Post by whimsicalism »

lanthissa wrote: post #199
whimsicalism wrote: post #153

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why pi over opencode? earnestly curious, trying to figure out what open solution people are consolidating on. (codex is also pseudo-open but contributions closed and nice)

pi is the neovim of agentic harnesses, its barebones and extremely configurable. if you're the sort of person who likes that sort of things its a forever product, nothing is going to displace it because you have full control. opencode builds a lot more in, which is better if you dont want to fiddle with config.

nice. i had thought the consensus had moved pretty firmly towards pi, so i was surprised to see Thinking Machines demoing their new model Inkling in OpenCode. wondering if they are previewing an acquisition

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by whimsicalism »

jack_pp wrote: post #174
guessmyname wrote: post #150

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Pi is good in concept, but why couldn’t they choose a compiled language instead of TypeScript?

since pi is built to modify itself, isn't it better to use a language like typescript where LLMs have a LOT of training data? a harness doesn't do any computations by itself so what benefit is using a compiled language?

i find LLMs generally play better with compiled languages actually, they do great with rust. you can think of it almost as analogous to a harness.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by jdiff »

petesergeant wrote: post #4

Neat, trying to reverse engineer some specifics of how it does stuff has been a pain in the ass, and this will make it easier.

To some degree at least. This is a hulking monster of a codebase for what it does, it's definitely LLM-built and almost definitely requires an LLM to tackle at all.
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