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Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by latchkey »

runarberg wrote: post #102
latchkey wrote: post #76

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i can think of 1000 reasons to need to call for help. heck, two months ago i fell on my skateboard and shattered my femur at the hip. it sure was nice to be able to call 911 and have someone come pick me up given that i couldn't drive anywhere. my van was parked right at the skatepark and there was no way i was going to drive. obviously not skating in a national park, but it isn't out of the question to not have a ma…

If American infrastructure is in such a bad shape that it requires starlink to make emergency calls, then I think we have bigger problems. And please, when you go hiking, download and print all the maps you need before you depart, and share a detailed plan with somebody able to call help, including a time estimate where you will make contact. As for work. Please just take time off and take a proper vacation. By being…

> download and print all the maps you need before you depart

If I'm living and traveling in my campervan for months on end, which is something I love to do, having starlink enables me to not have to plan. I can download the maps, hop out of my van and go. That's my own ideal freedom, I'm not tied to planning the same way you are.

> Please just take time off and take a proper vacation. By being constantly on call you will burn out at a much faster rate.

Wow, thanks for the advice. It is wild to me that you've got enough of an ego to say this to someone you don't know.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by latchkey »

runarberg wrote: post #124
latchkey wrote: post #112

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i'm in a campervan... i can be off-grid for many weeks and i also have a $dayjob. starlink enables me to get the best of both worlds, which is a huge reason why i love it so much. don't knock it until you try it. =)

Sure, I am glad for you. I‘m sure there are dozens of people in your situation. Now if we can only get a whole constellation of satellites to accommodate every possible niche.

Now your bias becomes clear. Should have stated that in the first place.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by ben_w »

naturalmovement wrote: post #136
ben_w wrote: post #116

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A few days ago people were telling me the Starlink was brilliant because it gave small African villages with no mains electricity an internet connection to share. This kind of behaviour does rather dampen the value proposition for such people.

Do you think tech bros who voluntarily choose to live in the woods should pay the same subsidized price as a rural African schoolhouse? Equity and all that.

It doesn't matter what I think in this case (I have already decided to not give Musk any money), what matters here is what Musk thinks and does, and how the actual real market reacts to that.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by [deleted] »

khurs wrote: post #74
jerlam wrote: post #70

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SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.

Will be interesting to see if Elon regrets only floating 4% [0] of the company at the IPO and not more seeing as it was over subscribed. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-spcx-stock-free-f...

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

croes wrote: post #20
idontwantthis wrote: post #4

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Unfortunately, their valuation has almost nothing to do with starlink revenues. It’s almost entirely speculative oribital data centers that have not been invented yet. They could double their starlink revenues and it would have no impact on the valuation.

Even if invented, what is the advantage of orbit data centers?

No planning restrictions. Throw up as many as you can afford to build and launch. No grid strain because they're self-powered.

And they're likely out of national jurisdictions, so you can generate all the porn you want.

Technologically? Maaaaaybe a slight ping time reduction in certain configurations compared to terrestrial fiber, because even with multiple hops lasers can still be faster than fiber.

Super-expensive, questionably economic way to do it though.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by mauvehaus »

scottyah wrote: post #88
mauvehaus wrote: post #61

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What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…

You really can't think of ANY situations that might be helped with instant communication with the outside world? If that's true, please don't go into national forests or BLMs anymore, I don't want my taxes to be spent looking for your body.

It's more that if you're that far off the beaten path, you'd better be prepared to hunker down and live with any kind of emergency that comes up for several hours up to a couple of days anyway. Which, for the record, is my standard and expectation for myself.

On the other hand, if you're dealing with being eaten by a bear, having a dangerous encounter with another person, or are at risk of being overrun by wildfire or flooding, a phone isn't likely to help much with the next 30 seconds of your possibly soon-to-be-abbreviated life. That's the risk you (and I) take by being out in the woods. You can't mitigate all or even much of that with technology.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by kotaKat »

latchkey wrote: post #129
bakies wrote: post #103

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also all the flagship phones have emergency satellite connections now, so it's not even the emergency bit, it's just about having full broadband internet

powered by... starlink. https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/satellite-phone-service

and the hilarious part is if you're along the US-Canadian border (or in most of Maine), you're in this magical 1.9GHz PCS coordination zone that they can't provide T-Satellite service in, and provide basically zero information that that's a thing.

https://i.imgur.com/pagujRS.png

this is a map of the t-satellite coverage from the t-mobile coverage map, just the t-sat layer.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by mauvehaus »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #79
mauvehaus wrote: post #61

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What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…

Same. I also have never been confronted with a situation where 911 would've added to my safety in any way whatsoever. Why does 911 even exist?

> Why does 911 even exist?

Because liquor stores get robbed sometimes, but they aren't usually found in the middle of a national forest.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by [deleted] »

khurs wrote: post #74
jerlam wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.

Will be interesting to see if Elon regrets only floating 4% [0] of the company at the IPO and not more seeing as it was over subscribed. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-spcx-stock-free-f...

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by [deleted] »

latchkey wrote: post #141
runarberg wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If American infrastructure is in such a bad shape that it requires starlink to make emergency calls, then I think we have bigger problems. And please, when you go hiking, download and print all the maps you need before you depart, and share a detailed plan with somebody able to call help, including a time estimate where you will make contact. As for work. Please just take time off and take a proper vacation. By being…

> download and print all the maps you need before you depart If I'm living and traveling in my campervan for months on end, which is something I love to do, having starlink enables me to not have to plan. I can download the maps, hop out of my van and go. That's my own ideal freedom, I'm not tied to planning the same way you are. > Please just take time off and take a proper vacation. By being constantly on call you…

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