Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, for regular people they're just starting to suddenly charge $1,500 fees. https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/1uklz4q/starlink_...
> He then reviewed my billing history and account details, confirmed that my service address had never actually changed, and determined that nothing had been moved. As a result, he issued a full refund.
Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#72Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.
Yeah, for regular people they're just starting to suddenly charge $1,500 fees. https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/1uklz4q/starlink_...
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#73Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#74There will be many price increases seeing as: -SpaceX raised $75bn in the IPO which will only last so long for a loss making high capital requirements company. -Then $25bn via bonds which have an annual interest rate repayment of $1.46 billion + repayment of the $25b (depending on bond length in years 2031,33,36,46 and 2056) -Morgan Stanley said: "In our model, we estimate SpaceX raising an average of $72bn annually…
SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.
[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-spcx-stock-free-f...
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#75Won’t somebody please think of the luxury private aviation consumers?
A lot of people on this forum actually have investments in SpaceX, directly or indirectly, and they're interested in this stuff as a signal of the health of the company. Not everything has to be some little gripefest.
The more money a person has, the greater the chance they spend it in ways that increase environmental harm. (Travel is a big one, and buying large homes, remodeling homes, heating and cooling those homes, well beyond the private sufficiency that would be enough for us if we also supported public luxuries instead of playing Smaug)
Rather than corporate health I'm more concerned with ecosystem health (actual eco-system, as in interconnected living beings, not the word applied to software...), and care much more about investing in the performance of the ecosystems (based on land, water, and air) that sustain life in the region I have this tiny bit of influence on.
Corporations are fictions, a game we're playing. After they go up in smoke, the land will still be here.
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
it has already gone up in price two times since i got mine. i still happily pay for the convenience and safety of having internet on my campervan in the middle of a national forest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…
but it isn't just about harm, as i said "convenience". i like being able to download detailed maps for trail hiking on-demand, and being off-grid and still able to be working (as my job requires me to be online).
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#77There will be many price increases seeing as: -SpaceX raised $75bn in the IPO which will only last so long for a loss making high capital requirements company. -Then $25bn via bonds which have an annual interest rate repayment of $1.46 billion + repayment of the $25b (depending on bond length in years 2031,33,36,46 and 2056) -Morgan Stanley said: "In our model, we estimate SpaceX raising an average of $72bn annually…
SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah but it still sounds like $1,500 demand fee was not a mistake, charging OP was the mistake. People first mentioned these fees at like $100... now you can go to Costco, grab a Starlink, and they'll randomly ask for $1,500 to actually start service. Congestion is a thing when each node needs to go to space, but it also feels like they're cashing in on years of "just move to a cabin in the woods and work off Starlin…
Isn't this fee specifically before they have you by the balls?
Wanna guess if Starlink is advertising how insane these fees have gotten?
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
it has already gone up in price two times since i got mine. i still happily pay for the convenience and safety of having internet on my campervan in the middle of a national forest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…
Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k
#80Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.
They are attempting to juice revenue across all product cohorts, this is simply another datapoint. Customers are captive until there are more connectivity options.
It’s worse if they are squeezing people in underserved rural areas… our monthly has gone down from €35 to €29 and still getting the same speed.
The second SpaceX offers direct-to-cell in our area we will switch to their service as we’ve never had any issues with it whereas the incumbent mobile/broadband providers regularly throttle even when we’re paying top tier prices.
Totally agree there needs to be more competition and preferably not from other billionaires … but until then, Starlink is great!