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Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

w10-1 wrote: post #56
jameskraus wrote: post #30

It is an reckless business practice to not have the monthly price locked down, with strong contractual protections. Sounds like Correnti didn't negotiate well and are now finding out.

> Sounds like Correnti didn't negotiate well Are you sure this is negotiable?

Everything is potentially negotiable.

Price on things like kitchen appliances, furniture often negotiable - you just have to ask.

My wife: (good customer) if I guy two pairs of shoes I want 2nd pair at 50% - them "ok"

My wife: what will you give me if I buy this (expensive briefcase)? - them "$100 gift card"

I got an extra $150 of a sheepskin coat at a going out of business sale just by asking

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by bakies »

largbae wrote: post #52
croes wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if invented, what is the advantage of orbit data centers?

Regulatory problems are doing the heavy lifting. Sure power is "free", if you can launch it, station keep it and cool it and if the data services are useful at the modem latencies of geosync and lunar orbits. But if datacenter projects can't be built/powered fast enough due to permitting, this is an expensive workaround.

The orbits are lower than that. Not that it changes the point.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by josephcsible »

smt88 wrote: post #53
e_i_pi_2 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed with this, and it also doesn't seem like this is the case but I'm generally a fan of charging B2B as high as possible to lower costs for regular consumers - other companies will generally pay a lot more even if it just includes the potential of getting better support, and that profit can be used to give access to more people at a lower price. A lot of open source software uses this model - free for everyone, b…

The aviation pricing will be passed to consumers either way, as increased fares or in-flight fees.

The price increased by $10,000 per month. United's 737-800's seat 166 passengers, so assuming each plane has 5 flights per day, that would only make the average ticket about 40 cents more expensive.

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Post by runarberg »

latchkey wrote: post #112
runarberg wrote: post #89

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I also don’t get the convenience part. If you are in a national forest, put on your boots, open the door and go for a walk, breathe the fresh air and touch some grass. Why is a low latency high speed internet connection convenient in this setting, you should be happy to be able to send text messages and make phone calls, as I assume you‘ll be spending most of your time enjoying nature or sitting around the campfire.

i'm in a campervan... i can be off-grid for many weeks and i also have a $dayjob. starlink enables me to get the best of both worlds, which is a huge reason why i love it so much. don't knock it until you try it. =)

Sure, I am glad for you. I‘m sure there are dozens of people in your situation. Now if we can only get a whole constellation of satellites to accommodate every possible niche.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by bakies »

khurs wrote: post #65

>SpaceX has also increased the price of its Starlink Aviation equipment to $200,000 per business aircraft, up from $145,000 last year. ouch.

I wonder how this compares with non-starlink aircraft ISP? Was/Is Delta using something else? Their internet has been good for a while.

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prymitive wrote: post #43
epistasis wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the meantime, until Musk comes up with the next big "idea" to switch to, all the current revenue levers need to be pushed to max to try to make it to that next stage, since public companies demand revenue every quarter. A lot of their revenue is also from renting out GPUs to more productive AI companies, so depending on how long that game can keep on going (getting access to GPUs before other companies), it could…

Here’s an idea: Musk launches a ton of orbital gpus but in reality it’s just an empty shell and real gpus sit in unused grok data centres. How would we even know?

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by [deleted] »

khurs wrote: post #74
jerlam wrote: post #70

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SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.

Will be interesting to see if Elon regrets only floating 4% [0] of the company at the IPO and not more seeing as it was over subscribed. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-spcx-stock-free-f...

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by latchkey »

bakies wrote: post #103
mauvehaus wrote: post #61

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What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…

also all the flagship phones have emergency satellite connections now, so it's not even the emergency bit, it's just about having full broadband internet

powered by... starlink. https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/satellite-phone-service

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by scottyah »

behnamoh wrote: post #13

As I write this, I'm disputing a charge from Starlink because when I activated mine, they automatically started the free trial for me, but nowhere in the receipt or on their website did they say they would switch me to the most expensive plan after the free trial was over. And they made it extremely confusing to cancel my free trial. So I ended up being charged $120 for something that I had just opened out of the box…

Who's your target audience for this... misinformation? > charged $120 for something that I had just opened out of the box

It does not work out of the box, you need to install an app, add a payment method, and sign up for a plan, free trial or not.

>you don't have to pay to keep the service or the satellite alive

Not sure what you mean by keeping a satellite alive, but you do need to pay for the service. There is no "Free" or "Pay as You Go" plan. Also, the Standby Mode $10/mo, not $5.

As for it being "extremely confusing", that's highly subjective so I won't comment, but it's definitely standard UI and I think it took me less than 8 clicks to first downgrade then cancel my plan.

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