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Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by Cyberdogs7 »

naturalmovement wrote: post #82
BoorishBears wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but it still sounds like $1,500 demand fee was not a mistake, charging OP was the mistake. People first mentioned these fees at like $100... now you can go to Costco, grab a Starlink, and they'll randomly ask for $1,500 to actually start service. Congestion is a thing when each node needs to go to space, but it also feels like they're cashing in on years of "just move to a cabin in the woods and work off Starlin…

If you're privileged enough to work a six-figure tech job while engaging in a homesteader larp in a "cabin in the woods", you can probably afford the fee. So can "off-grid" YouTuber grifters. It's like everyone feels entitled to something they didn't know existed a few years ago.

So we should let companies do what ever anti-consumer practices they want, because you don't like the group they are doing it to?

Should a car company be allowed to charge you an extra fee every time you have a passenger?

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

latchkey wrote: post #85
1234letshaveatw wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. I also have never been confronted with a situation where 911 would've added to my safety in any way whatsoever. Why does 911 even exist?

see below. 911 just saved my life. not even counting the amount of pain i was in. i had internal bleeding and ended up need transfusions due to my red blood cell count dropping below 7.

Sorry, that didn't happen to me directly, doesn't count

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by bakies »

khurs wrote: post #74
jerlam wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.

Will be interesting to see if Elon regrets only floating 4% [0] of the company at the IPO and not more seeing as it was over subscribed. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-spcx-stock-free-f...

does low float and high demand drive the price up? the article just says more volatility which makes sense, but over subscribed would make me think it would have a higher price. Everyone is already bailing on their positions?

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by scottyah »

grim_io wrote: post #60
novafunc wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but the primary reason for Starlink is for areas with poor traditional ISPs. If you had a choice between Fiber or Starlink, you’d choose Fiber. So as traditional ISPs improve service and coverage, Starlink becomes less in demand.

Sounds like a great long-term investment. Starlink would only make sense if the world was not getting more and more concentrated around densely populated areas.

I think it'd be easier for Starlink to start building and deploying wide area ground stations (like 5g towers or something) to serve urban areas than it would take all the other telcos to deploy satellites.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#95

Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

naturalmovement wrote: post #82
BoorishBears wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but it still sounds like $1,500 demand fee was not a mistake, charging OP was the mistake. People first mentioned these fees at like $100... now you can go to Costco, grab a Starlink, and they'll randomly ask for $1,500 to actually start service. Congestion is a thing when each node needs to go to space, but it also feels like they're cashing in on years of "just move to a cabin in the woods and work off Starlin…

If you're privileged enough to work a six-figure tech job while engaging in a homesteader larp in a "cabin in the woods", you can probably afford the fee. So can "off-grid" YouTuber grifters. It's like everyone feels entitled to something they didn't know existed a few years ago.

People feel entitled to the advertised rate structure. Was there anywhere in the promo material that you might get slapped with $1500 connection fees?

If you are not big tech, that’s a lot of money. For the home in the middle of nowhere, $1500 could be more than you would pay in monthly rent. Plenty of rural people without access to good internet were hoping for Starlink to save them from garbage DSL connection options.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by naturalmovement »

Cyberdogs7 wrote: post #91
naturalmovement wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're privileged enough to work a six-figure tech job while engaging in a homesteader larp in a "cabin in the woods", you can probably afford the fee. So can "off-grid" YouTuber grifters. It's like everyone feels entitled to something they didn't know existed a few years ago.

So we should let companies do what ever anti-consumer practices they want, because you don't like the group they are doing it to? Should a car company be allowed to charge you an extra fee every time you have a passenger?

If you need a specialized amphibious vehicle to get to your shack in the woods, it's not anti-consumer if it costs you more than a Mitsubishi Mirage.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by jameskraus »

w10-1 wrote: post #56
jameskraus wrote: post #30

It is an reckless business practice to not have the monthly price locked down, with strong contractual protections. Sounds like Correnti didn't negotiate well and are now finding out.

> Sounds like Correnti didn't negotiate well Are you sure this is negotiable?

If price protection for something like this isn't negotiable it's a huge business risk, which would also be reckless to take on.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by scottyah »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #42
croes wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if invented, what is the advantage of orbit data centers?

I think the idea is easy energy availability and no push back from the locals. Those both seem to be to be fairly simple to solve on the ground compared to the unsolved issues doing it in orbit.

The Laws of Physics are much easier to build around than the Laws of Men.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by theturtletalks »

What’s even more concerning is that the current government changed their requirements for the rural broadband program so companies like StarLink can bid to bring internet to those remote areas instead of using wired or fiber connections. Not far-fetched that StarLink wins this contract and then squeezes those customers over time. ISPs will have little reason to expand in those underserved areas without government subsidies.
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