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So, the inclusion rules are basically "these are the hard limits that specify which stocks are eligible, unless someone really big and lucrative comes along, in which case it's whatever and we'll just adjust the rules to make them eligible"?
"Everyone has a price." - Pablo Escobar
SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
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Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#392The worst about the SpaceX IPO is Nasdaq changing their inclusion rules for the Nasdaq 100. The index fast-tracked SpaceX stock for inclusion 15 days after the IPO, instead of the normal three-month seasoning period. They also changed its 10% minimum float rule to a 3x weighting boost for low-float stockss. So many people will unwillingly and prematurely invest into SpaceX, before it has any chance to discover its re…
So, the inclusion rules are basically "these are the hard limits that specify which stocks are eligible, unless someone really big and lucrative comes along, in which case it's whatever and we'll just adjust the rules to make them eligible"?
Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#393The worst about the SpaceX IPO is Nasdaq changing their inclusion rules for the Nasdaq 100. The index fast-tracked SpaceX stock for inclusion 15 days after the IPO, instead of the normal three-month seasoning period. They also changed its 10% minimum float rule to a 3x weighting boost for low-float stockss. So many people will unwillingly and prematurely invest into SpaceX, before it has any chance to discover its re…
Nasdaq 100 has always been marketed as a tech-forward index. It would be a bit ridiculous if they didn’t include the most value tech companies on the market.
There was a potential scandal at S&P. But it didn’t happen. My personal guess is a lot of finance influencers latched onto this story. When it didn’t pan out they tried to maintain credibility by shifting it onto the Nasdaq 100, where it doesn’t make sense.
Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're forgetting that whenever the incentives lead to bad places it isn't True Capitalism (tm).
True capitalism has never been tried. This right now is crony capitalism.
Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#395Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're living under true capitalism right now. Look at the incentives. I don't see how we could have progressed to anything besides this, this is the natural outcome of the system in place. American libertarians often imagine some kind of wonderland capitalism where everyone agrees to play by the rules that aren't enforced by anyone. To my knowledge this has never existed as a long-term equilibrium and it can't exist.…
The United States is far more socialist than capitalist and it’s not close. In the early 1900s the federal tax rate was 0. Now we spend 125% of what we bring in in taxes. That is definitely not capitalism. That’s not a free market, that is the government spending far beyond what’s even feasible
Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#396Which is all sorts of backwards. Debt has liquidation preference over equity. And equity market say spacex has trillion+ of supposed equity buffer before it cuts into debt value
If the equity market says something that must make it true. Markets have never gotten valuations wrong
Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, the inclusion rules are basically "these are the hard limits that specify which stocks are eligible, unless someone really big and lucrative comes along, in which case it's whatever and we'll just adjust the rules to make them eligible"?
Isn’t that how capitalism works in general? Edit: thanks for the downvotes. Defenders of capitalism unite!!! lol. Free market right?
Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#398Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#399The worst about the SpaceX IPO is Nasdaq changing their inclusion rules for the Nasdaq 100. The index fast-tracked SpaceX stock for inclusion 15 days after the IPO, instead of the normal three-month seasoning period. They also changed its 10% minimum float rule to a 3x weighting boost for low-float stockss. So many people will unwillingly and prematurely invest into SpaceX, before it has any chance to discover its re…
> worst about the SpaceX IPO is Nasdaq changing their inclusion rules Nasdaq 100 has always been marketed as a tech-forward index. It would be a bit ridiculous if they didn’t include the most value tech companies on the market. There was a potential scandal at S&P. But it didn’t happen. My personal guess is a lot of finance influencers latched onto this story. When it didn’t pan out they tried to maintain credibility…
You are the biggest simp for the rich.
They pay you to post here in their defense?
Discourse on this site is no better than Twitter or Reddit, just another flavor of stupid.
Re: SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
What even is "true capitalism"?
Usually "true capitalism" means one of two things: 1. Capitalism where there is no government or regulatory interference, and the "invisible hand of the free market" produces some kind of utopian society based purely on every business abiding by rules enforced by no one, where somehow corporations don't take advantage of workers they way they do now despite there being no laws against it. 2. The same thing but sarcas…
Historical examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...