John Oliver has a good segment about this
DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety
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Kratom has been around for a while, I remember seeing it in headshops at least a decade ago.
I used to order it online in like 2005. Crude extracts were available maybe since 2007. The plant almost got banned several years ago. Then over the last few years all these extracts and derivatives have been coming out. MGM-15 is stronger than heroin from what I've heard. Strongest stuff I ever tried was a mitragynine gummy and it felt like hydrocodone. That one gummy had the effects of what I used to get from a couple cups of tea. Good stuff but not risking addiction to try it again. Made me nauseous too
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#24Actually reasonable decision from the DEA under RFK. Scheduling concentrated/semi-synthetic kratom products while leaving the weaker leaf-based products alone is a good compromise to reduce harm without criminalizing kratom (which has beneficial uses for opioid recovery and maintenance therapy) in general.
If it actually has beneficial uses let a doctor prescribe it. Kratom is extremely addictive and should be illegal yesterday.
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#25aka "gas station heroin"
Gas stations have the best drugs
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kratom is great. I used to make a kratom chai tea, felt similar to hydrocodone
Crack is great, it gets you really high.
This is the proper response. I'm sure heroin feels really really really good. The amount of addicts in this thread defending their addiction is surprising.
PS: Is that a Mr. Show reference?
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kratom is great. I used to make a kratom chai tea, felt similar to hydrocodone
Crack is great, it gets you really high.
Everything in moderation. I know a few successful adults who have tried crack. Personally, I'd never want to try it but people can do what they want. I've been around people high on powder cocaine a few times and they were incredibly annoying.
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I thought they were talking about krokodil, but nope... I've literally never heard of 7-oh.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know very little of this but it seems like not all things kratom are affected. > This temporary scheduling action does not apply to botanical kratom products that contain naturally occurring 7-OH below the specified threshold. Instead, it targets synthesized products and those containing elevated concentrations of 7-OH as outlined in the temporary scheduling order. DEA believes these substances pose an imminent thr…
According to the ROI ( https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/07/06/2026-13... ), the threshold isn't yet fixed but the suggested value would be 1 milligram or 5% of the dry-mass. Doses sold are in grams so this would ban kratom.
Paragraph A,not paragraph B applies to actual kratom leaf.
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Kratom has been around for a while, I remember seeing it in headshops at least a decade ago.
This is different. There’s the plant. Contains about 1.5% mitragynine.
Then there were purified extracts of the active alkaloids in the plant. Started around 30% mitragynine years ago now in the 85% range.
Then there were synthetic derivatives of mitragynine (7oh, mgm-15, etc.). These are much more fun/addictive and surprisingly safe. Almost all “overdoses” involved a mix of alcohol or other drugs. Much safer than fentanyl or traditional opioids because it doesn’t meaningfully trigger respiratory depression leading to asphyxiation. Unfortunately, they’re also addictive. The harm level, imho, was somewhere around alcohol or nicotine.