DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety • Hacker News Board

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by NDlurker » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:07 PM UTC

reactordev wrote: post #2

Good. That kratom crap can go.

Kratom is great. I used to make a kratom chai tea, felt similar to hydrocodone

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by Krutonium » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:07 PM UTC

Avicebron wrote: post #8

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It's a not-opioid that just plays with the opiate receptors in your brain and can be purchased in a concentrated form at your nearest gas station in a lot of US States.

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by fierycatnet » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:08 PM UTC

Kratom has been beneficial for me. Extracts can go but the leaf should stay.

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by ok123456 » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:08 PM UTC

Avicebron wrote: post #8

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7-OH is the name for derivatives of kratom that contain the active ingredients.

It has opioid-like addiction tendencies.

Lots of people who used kratom to wean themselves off opioids are now addicted to 7-OH. This includes many people over the age of 30.

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by kami23 » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:09 PM UTC

Avicebron wrote: post #8

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Kratom has been around for a while, I remember seeing it in headshops at least a decade ago.

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by 1f60c » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:09 PM UTC

Avicebron wrote: post #8

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Evan Edinger (who is 35) was addicted to it (see YouTube link).

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by xvxvx » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:10 PM UTC

See, where you went wrong was… you started taking something called ‘Kratom’… from a local gas station.

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by Sayrus » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:12 PM UTC

mroche wrote: post #4

reactordev wrote: post #2

Good. That kratom crap can go.

I know very little of this but it seems like not all things kratom are affected. > This temporary scheduling action does not apply to botanical kratom products that contain naturally occurring 7-OH below the specified threshold. Instead, it targets synthesized products and those containing elevated concentrations of 7-OH as outlined in the temporary scheduling order. DEA believes these substances pose an imminent thr…

According to the ROI (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/07/06/2026-13...), the threshold isn't yet fixed but the suggested value would be 1 milligram or 5% of the dry-mass. Doses sold are in grams so this would ban kratom.

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by Centigonal » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:13 PM UTC

Actually reasonable decision from the DEA under RFK. Scheduling concentrated/semi-synthetic kratom products while leaving the weaker leaf-based products alone is a good compromise to reduce harm without criminalizing kratom (which has beneficial uses for opioid recovery and maintenance therapy) in general.

Re: DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety

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Post by kccqzy » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 4:14 PM UTC

Last year, the FDA had already said that if kratom is added to food, it is considered adulteration of food. It also cannot be a dietary supplement.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/fda-and-...

I’m not fully cognizant of the interaction between FDA and DEA, but I would’ve thought that following FDA’s announcement last year, kratom had already been outlawed.