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Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Hating the tech industry is mainly seen amongst the first world countries and the rich educate, high status people amongst them.

I posit that the reasons are

- the need for conservatism and slowing down progress is inherent in people. Last time it was opposing LGBTQ and racial discrimination and now it is technology. Its the same mode of opposition, people just don't like chaotic progress.

- people who have good jobs and high status want to _conserve_ it and not lose position - tech industry keeps threatening the status quo again and again

- for some reason cynicism is seen as signalling a more mature worldview while optimism is seen as childish when the historical trend points to optimism instead

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

#32
I think there are a few reasons to note here:

1. Tech is associated with a lot of the issues affecting society right now, while other business sectors often aren't. Data centres and the rising price of computer components, social media addiction, gambling apps, surveillance, etc. These are all things in the news or affecting people's daily lives, and the 'tech industry' tends to get the blame for them.

2. Many of the people involved tend to have a bad reputation, even compared to other industries. Musk is the obvious one, but Bezos, Zuckerberg and others like them don't exactly have a great reputation with the general public.

3. As much as I can't blame them sometimes, the media absolutely hates the tech industry and the companies operating in it. Thanks in part to the large social media platforms all but annihilating traditional journalism as a business, there's a lot of hatred aimed at the companies responsible as a result. If you see any news article about a tech related topic that isn't a product announcement (and maybe even then), it's probably going to be a negative one about the dangers and issues with tech.

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

#33
People hate the tech industry because it has negative effects on their lives, and these effects are deliberate rather than incidental.

There are, of course, some good people/companies/projects in the tech industry, but think about the overall impression of the industry as a whole: careless and malevolent.

The tech industry and its figureheads have

- Lied consistently about their capabilities

- Brazenly flouted the law

- Shoved ads and planned obsolescence and surveillance into everything

- Increased prices again and again

- Supported oppressive governments and war crimes

- Gleefully attempted to remove many people's livelihoods

- Predicted that they would end the world, and then doubled down on the same path

- Deployed bots everywhere, polluting online communities

- Pushed technology with the primary aim of CSAM or deepfake pornography

I could keep listing, and again, this isn't every single person in the tech industry. But if you group them all together, you have to take the bad with the good, and there's a lot of bad.

Frankly, the real question is why don't more people hate the tech industry?

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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For the people I know, the biggest things are: (1) Addiction engineering, and the fact that the tech industry found a way to transform what was supposed to be a machine to improve human education and cognition into a digital version of tobacco or a casino. I am personally disgusted by this. If you're working on a pop "social" app or a game and designing it to have a "compulsion loop," you are doing mind control and y…

I think you've got good points. With respect to #3 I think there's a general problem with concentration of capital and general "hoarding".

One example. Berkshire Hathaway has $400 billion dollars in the bank that they can't invest because they need high returns. So the capital is locked up. (The banks who hold the funds are restricted in what they can invest in).

Multiply this by loads of other companies. Add in funds stashed in tax havens. And just plain individual savings of people terrified about being poor in their old age.

My point is that the rich problem is not restricted to tech. Although it is quite visible

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Space exploration.

I think that's true of NASA. However, I've got a pretty negative view of SpaceX due to the whole "owned by a Nazi thing".

Hahem, Wernher von Braun... What is it with nazis and rockets anyway?

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Kindergartens

Nobody enjoys paying for one though.

I mean sure... but I vote for education tax levies whenever they come up and choose to live somewhere where they pass. I wouldn't call my emotions about it negative.

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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I can't actually think of a single piece of tech made in the past ten years that has improved my life, at least not without large downsides. There's some embedded stuff, like lane assist or adaptive cruise control in my car, that I like, but the package as a whole... not really much of an improvement.

It's not really bad as such that the tech industry want to attempt to make a smart home, or add software to a product, but it's increasingly being done without consideration for the users.

People hate the tech industry, and that includes those who work in it, because it's pretty clear that the industry really doesn't give a shit about it's users, because the users are rarely the customers anymore.

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Information systems has always been about empowering business leaders to produce more with less human effort. In that respect, AI for example has been a game changer. Everything else was a sideshow. If you've been leaning hard on programming and lack the people skills to join the business class, that's on you. Things are going to get very hard for you in the near future, if they haven't already. People skills are the…

> If you've been leaning hard on programming and lack the people skills to join the business class, that's on you. where did i say that I've been solely leaning hard on programming and not focusing on the people skill?

I didn't say you did. But the industry is full of people with technical acumen but little in the way of people skills or a knack for business needs; and in the supposedly halcyon days of the past many of them could grow rich, or at least popular, by developing something cool. These people are going to have a very bad time.
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