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Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by bitwize »

l337h4x0rz wrote: post #8

In my opinion tech used to be fun and we used to create products that actually empower people. Think MySpace, early-days Facebook, Soundcloud, Ableton Live etc. They exist to empower the masses to connect and to create. Today the business model has made every products and contents to be enshittified. We've optimised for the wrong thing and not only the common people hate the tech industry. Even I no longer feels the…

Information systems has always been about empowering business leaders to produce more with less human effort. In that respect, AI for example has been a game changer. Everything else was a sideshow.

If you've been leaning hard on programming and lack the people skills to join the business class, that's on you. Things are going to get very hard for you in the near future, if they haven't already. People skills are the new moat.

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by ymolodtsov »

bananaflag wrote: post #3
kgwxd wrote: post #2

Name an industry anyone likes, aside from the money they might be making off it. They're all now hated for the same reasons, caused by the same, scarily small, group of people.

Space exploration.

Tons of people believe it's a waste of money though (I disagree).

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by l337h4x0rz »

FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #12
l337h4x0rz wrote: post #8

In my opinion tech used to be fun and we used to create products that actually empower people. Think MySpace, early-days Facebook, Soundcloud, Ableton Live etc. They exist to empower the masses to connect and to create. Today the business model has made every products and contents to be enshittified. We've optimised for the wrong thing and not only the common people hate the tech industry. Even I no longer feels the…

As always, capitalism can be counted on to destroy anything it touches.

At the start founders got the joy from making products that makes people happy. Then it inevitably evolves to chasing the dopamine of achieving larger and larger numbers based on some quantifiable metrics.

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by SecretDreams »

ymolodtsov wrote: post #18
l337h4x0rz wrote: post #8

In my opinion tech used to be fun and we used to create products that actually empower people. Think MySpace, early-days Facebook, Soundcloud, Ableton Live etc. They exist to empower the masses to connect and to create. Today the business model has made every products and contents to be enshittified. We've optimised for the wrong thing and not only the common people hate the tech industry. Even I no longer feels the…

YouTube empowers millions of creators around the world. It's more about the fact that at a sufficiently large scale any platform faces the same issues. Some creators are terrible without breaking the rules, people argue, etc.

> YouTube empowers millions of creators around the world.

Agree.

But it empowers them to vie for attention in mostly the worst ways possible and, overwhelmingly, has led to a lot of bad content. There's some gems too. But, by and large, YouTube is less desirable for me to use than it was 10 years ago and I think it's because of the transformation into an industry, rather than an indie platform that also paid out.

It feels like it went from a farmer's market with a lot of local farmers selling their goods to shopping at Walmart.

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by l337h4x0rz »

bitwize wrote: post #21
l337h4x0rz wrote: post #8

In my opinion tech used to be fun and we used to create products that actually empower people. Think MySpace, early-days Facebook, Soundcloud, Ableton Live etc. They exist to empower the masses to connect and to create. Today the business model has made every products and contents to be enshittified. We've optimised for the wrong thing and not only the common people hate the tech industry. Even I no longer feels the…

Information systems has always been about empowering business leaders to produce more with less human effort. In that respect, AI for example has been a game changer. Everything else was a sideshow. If you've been leaning hard on programming and lack the people skills to join the business class, that's on you. Things are going to get very hard for you in the near future, if they haven't already. People skills are the…

> If you've been leaning hard on programming and lack the people skills to join the business class, that's on you.

where did i say that I've been solely leaning hard on programming and not focusing on the people skill?

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by petcat »

luco17 wrote: post #7
kgwxd wrote: post #2

Name an industry anyone likes, aside from the money they might be making off it. They're all now hated for the same reasons, caused by the same, scarily small, group of people.

Hairdressing/beauticians

In the words of Hank Hill, "some people are meant to go to college, and some people are meant to go to beauty school."

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by fzeroracer »

The article really sums it up perfectly. It's incredibly see to see topical reasons why people fucking hate everything tech touches. You can't buy a TV without it being an embedded advertising device that forces you to see ads every time you turn it on. You can't buy a car without needing a touchscreen that if it breaks you're SOL. People who actually like computers increasingly can't even afford to buy one

If I could I'd toss my TV I bought a decade ago into the garbage can after all of the updates it keeps receiving making it more and more intrusive with advertising. But then I'd have to pay extra for a non-smart TV.

Re: Why do people hate the tech industry? (2023)

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Post by nyeah »

Yeah. "Hate": https://www.kapwing.com/blog/why-does-the-public-hate-the-te...

Re the linked piece, I'm concerned about people saying "they hate us" when they really mean "they disagree with us" or "they seem skeptical of what we say." It can easily become click bait.

The language changes, sure ... but equating disagreement with the emotion of hatred? Maybe that language change is a bad idea? Just spitballing here.

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