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Blah-blah-singularity, so let's cripple the models so much they refuse to talk about React, because who knows if you are not cooking chemical weapons or meth in your browser's DOM, right?

strawmen are fun and helpful

I am working on my change password page today and Fable is refusing to help me because "safety".

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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I do wonder what type of AI some of these leaders expect to be able to harness. If you create something that is true AI, won’t it be smarter than you to a level you cannot fathom. I was thinking of this idea/though-experiment (which I know is ridiculous) of what if dogs created humans thinking they could control them, and then just wound up being pets because their survival now depended on that new hierarchy that pre…

Yes, this is the crux of the idiocy of AGI development. All the labs admit they don't have any real mechanistic interpretability, they don't really have any plan for what to do, except "we think the smart AI will figure it out" and "look we're in a race, we're calling on governments to figure out what to do". All indicators show scaling laws holding and the trajectory of capabilities development outpacing any inkling of alignment. Meanwhile HN is so reactionary and behind-the-puck these days we just get endless blathering of the most asinine takes of "they're not improving anymore so they want regulation suddenly!" when all lab leaders have been talking about these risks for practically a decade, including Yoshua Bengio and Geoffrey Hinton coming around.

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In Sparta, according to Plutarch, in his The Life of Lycurgus:

Offspring was not reared at the will of the father, but was taken and carried by him to a place called Lesche, where the elders of the tribes officially examined the infant, and if it was well-built and sturdy, they ordered the father to rear it, and assigned it one of the nine thousand lots of land; but if it was ill-born and deformed, they sent it to the so‑called Apothetae, a chasm-like place at the foot of Mount Taÿgetus, in the conviction that the life of that which nature had not well equipped at the very beginning for health and strength, was of no advantage either to itself or the state.

To get approval for the plan from the Frontier President of the Frontier Country, terminology of the Framework should be changed to: 'Great-American-class', "Great American Models", "Great American Labs".

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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>This is a pivotal moment in human history. Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the brain has, is probably only a few short years away. There is a heatwave in London, perhaps Demis needs to stay out of the sun and drink more water. Or perhaps he is seeking more funding/a fight to maintain his divisions AGI research budget.

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Why does he scrape other people's works then and turn them into a sausage algorithmically?

Would he not create something directly instead?

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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Spoiler: The plan is .. add massive regulation, but only to the US, don't affect other countries developing it in any way other than "setting a good standard that'll hopefully influence them". Seems like an airtight plan.

If the USA takes up his suggestions, it will have an incentive to work on international frameworks and treaties with competing nations to make the regulation global.

There won't be any kind of international framework, because by now countries have learned that the US' word is pretty much worthless, similar to Russia's. They now know from experience, US-ratified treaties will only be honored if they feel like it on a particular day. If it's inconvenient, it will simply be ignored.

You'd have major protests in most large economies if they deliberately put themselves under the boot again. Even in "friendly" countries the US is disliked enough to be effectively considered a hostile country. E.g. in Germany, there is large public support to finally get the US bases closed and the soldiers removed.

Lots of things changed in the last years. And international major treaties being widely ratified just because the US asks for it is no longer a thing, at all.

A country that threatens to annex parts of your territory is not a friend, full stop.

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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Demis has only 1 plan, how to dodge releasing a new model at this point, jokes aside I value thinking about AI safety, but are we really so close to AGI? It doesn't feel like it, LLMs still diagnose my headache as a chronic illness or a brain tumor from time to time... honestly stressful.
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