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The proposal: >The American government, he says, should develop a system for testing the safety of new AI models before they are released. “It’s important that it’s not just an industry body,” he adds. But a regular government agency wouldn’t do either. “It would not be able to move fast enough, or have the right resources.” Instead, Sir Demis suggests taking inspiration from FINRA, the Financial Industry Regulatory…

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Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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I do wonder what type of AI some of these leaders expect to be able to harness. If you create something that is true AI, won’t it be smarter than you to a level you cannot fathom. I was thinking of this idea/though-experiment (which I know is ridiculous) of what if dogs created humans thinking they could control them, and then just wound up being pets because their survival now depended on that new hierarchy that previously didn’t exist.

Seems to be a lot of hubris with some AI thought leaders thinking control will remain with them and be absolute.

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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Spoiler: The plan is .. add massive regulation, but only to the US, don't affect other countries developing it in any way other than "setting a good standard that'll hopefully influence them". Seems like an airtight plan.

If the USA takes up his suggestions, it will have an incentive to work on international frameworks and treaties with competing nations to make the regulation global.

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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sigh

The standards body will have no teeth. whats to stop someone just not bothering?

Next, the threats he is asserting to check for (cyber, chemical, biological) are nice, but also not that useful.

We already have chemical and biological controls, that why I can't by anthrax spores or high concentration nitric acid.

The risks that AI has now are already playing out:

1) the evaporation of trust in the video as medium of "this happened"

2) systematic spying

3) job losses

Increased productivity means job losses, Tiktok, instagram and X are a wash with disinformtion campaign pumping your feeds with AI ragebait.

That is and will continue to fracture society so that only the strictly information controlled (ie authoritarian) have a functioning state.

if the author had bothered to engage with the world outside of tech, or even their local government, they would know that the proposal are dead in the water and frankly superfluous. The knowledge is out there, without AI. let us work on the issues we face now, rather than dipshit tech bro's miopic vision/funding manifesto.

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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how would this help smaller labs? would it put more burdens on them when trying to compete with trillion-dollar companies or would it help?

He is saying that weaker models, as measured by a benchmark to distinguish "frontier" models, would be exempted. So an academic lab or startup that isn't yet producing frontier models would be exempted, but once it crossed some benchmark based threshold it would be subject to this kind of oversight.

Of course, right now you've got benchmaxxing going on; some companies specifically targetting benchmarks to appear stronger than they are on a wider range of tasks. Now you might see bench sandbagging, specifically looking weaker on certain benchmarks to avoid regulatory oversight.

For instance, once way I could see this going for open models is to release them undercooked; stop the RLVR process a bit early, leaving them a bit weaker on tool calls and agentic performance, but also release the RLVR environment so people can finish the process themselves.

In fact, this is fairly close to what Nvidia is already doing, the Nemotron 3 models are somewhat undercooked but they are releasing their full training pipeline, to encourage people to use these models as a base for further training, which will generally be done on Nvidia hardware.

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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Spoiler: The plan is .. add massive regulation, but only to the US, don't affect other countries developing it in any way other than "setting a good standard that'll hopefully influence them". Seems like an airtight plan.

That's called the carrot

The beauty of the United States' global hegemony is that it also has lots of sticks

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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The premise is "Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the brain has, is probably only a few short years away". If this is true, establishing an institution to ensure things like "publishing model cards with technical details, maintaining strong internal cybersecurity, vetting key personnel, and providing sufficient resourcing for safety and security research" is…

The fundamental issue is that if we really get something like this, scarcity will still exist. There will still be scarce things people want. But the motivating justificatory structure for any inequality in allocation will have completely evaporated.

Am I crazy or does this just real like secular eschatology? What evidence do you have of any of this?
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