I wonder if they are gonna stop us from using gpt subscriptions in alternative harnesses. If not - that doesn't matter much, codex cli is a remarkably unremarkable harness.
"remarkably unremarkable harness" is why I like it so much.
Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts
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#22I wonder if they are gonna stop us from using gpt subscriptions in alternative harnesses. If not - that doesn't matter much, codex cli is a remarkably unremarkable harness.
Anthropic and Google already charge extra to use your own harness. That's 100% of the reason I'm using OpenAI. If they go down that path I'll just go back to my old buddy Claude, or maybe buy a second Spark and keep it local.
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#23I assumed that the main agent makes calls to sub-agents locally. Does Codex work in such a way where the main agent makes calls to sub-agents in the backend (openai server) before reaching local?
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
How so?
I assume OP interpreted it as encryption that hides the prompts from OpenAI rather than OpenAI hiding information from users.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume OP interpreted it as encryption that hides the prompts from OpenAI rather than OpenAI hiding information from users.
ooooooof yeah totally misinterpreted it lmao
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google is really not distinguishing itself. Even the hosted inference sucks.
At least the local models they put out are pretty good for their weight class. Could be worse, could be releasing the same amount of local models as Anthropic.
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#29HN Title is ( edit: was ) very misleading, it makes it sound like inference is being done directly on ciphertext, which would require homomorphic encryption well advanced of what is known.
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#30Could someone explain to me where exactly the encryption is happening? I assumed that the main agent makes calls to sub-agents locally. Does Codex work in such a way where the main agent makes calls to sub-agents in the backend (openai server) before reaching local?
Now, when using Sol or Terra (Luna seems unaffected), instead of the agent sending clear-text prompt to the sub-agent, it sends a ciphertext generated on OpenAIs backend, which ends up being the prompt, then agent sends this ciphertext to the sub-agent, which then continues to use that for further inference to OpenAIs backend. Only delegated inter-agent messages are encrypted, not all session data. Now if you browse the data, it's all encrypted content, that can only be decrypted by OpenAI and their backend.