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Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts

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Re: Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts

#12

I wonder if they are gonna stop us from using gpt subscriptions in alternative harnesses. If not - that doesn't matter much, codex cli is a remarkably unremarkable harness.

Anthropic and Google already charge extra to use your own harness. That's 100% of the reason I'm using OpenAI. If they go down that path I'll just go back to my old buddy Claude, or maybe buy a second Spark and keep it local.

Google is really not distinguishing itself. Even the hosted inference sucks.

Re: Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic and Google already charge extra to use your own harness. That's 100% of the reason I'm using OpenAI. If they go down that path I'll just go back to my old buddy Claude, or maybe buy a second Spark and keep it local.

Google is really not distinguishing itself. Even the hosted inference sucks.

At least the local models they put out are pretty good for their weight class. Could be worse, could be releasing the same amount of local models as Anthropic.

Re: Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts

#16
post #9

~~Finally someone doing it correctly. Love this change.~~ Edit: F really misunderstood the change, the title is misleading AF. I should have read the post before commenting lmao. Absolutely hate it, now I guess... sigh.. Incase the title gets changed it used to say, "Codex starts encrypting prompts, uses ciphertext for inference instead"

How so?

Re: Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts

#17

I assume this is mostly to frustrate efforts to proxy large numbers of user requests and responses and use it to train competitor models.

Quite obviously they're afraid of letting other providers see how they handle the whole multi-agent management stuff. Pretty terrible implementation though, which makes it impossible to use the multi-agent stuff as a paying user, as you have zero recourse in figuring out what went wrong, when something inevitably goes wrong.

Re: Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts

#18

I wonder if they are gonna stop us from using gpt subscriptions in alternative harnesses. If not - that doesn't matter much, codex cli is a remarkably unremarkable harness.

Given that codex itself now ships a proxy that wraps the subscription, it seems unlikely

https://github.com/openai/codex/blob/main/codex-rs/responses...

Re: Codex starts encrypting sub-agent prompts

#20
post #9

~~Finally someone doing it correctly. Love this change.~~ Edit: F really misunderstood the change, the title is misleading AF. I should have read the post before commenting lmao. Absolutely hate it, now I guess... sigh.. Incase the title gets changed it used to say, "Codex starts encrypting prompts, uses ciphertext for inference instead"

How so?

I assume OP interpreted it as encryption that hides the prompts from OpenAI rather than OpenAI hiding information from users.
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