And the band played on.
A graph that should be front-page news
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#412If it should be front-page news, shouldn't it also be at the top of the article, rather than right at the bottom?
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If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
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#414https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-16/nsw-bureau-of-meterol...
Not that it lead to any particular action or recognition.
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#415"Earth is moving beyond the range within which modern human civilisation developed." Way, way, way, way overstated. The graph shows a comparison to an average over a few decades. Human civilization is thousands of years old. Does anyone have a graph of what all the El Ninos since the last Ice Age ended have looked like? Of course not. Nobody has that kind of temperature data.
There is not a graph of prehistoric ocean surface temperatures (doesn’t seem possible to obtain this data other than collecting it as it happens as far as I can tell) but there is global historical temperature data. Here is an XKCD comic, scroll to the bottom and pay attention to the rate of change since 1850 vs the prior 20,000 years: https://xkcd.com/1732/ This Wikipedia article has a graph of the last 2000 years:…
Reconstructed from proxies. Not all experts in the field agree on how reliable the proxies actually are, especially over such long time periods.
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>Conspiracy to defraud is an agreement between two or more people to act dishonestly to deprive someone of property, cause them financial loss, or expose them to economic risk. It is a criminal offense, and the conspirators can be prosecuted even if the actual fraud is never executed or no loss occurs. But "you should use paper straws to help the environment" isn't fraud, because it does help the environment in some…
> isn't fraud .. can't be executed for fraud it'll be special kind of fraud, fraud against the planet, execution is ok for that one
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#417the problem with this kind of article is half of them push a doom angle and the other half talk about carbon footprint. both of them have the same effect making people give up or do useless lifestyle changes that do nothing for the environment. we should be pushing for backend changes that are invisible but actually make things better. that means massive subsidies to build out clean power and electrify everything. po…
Republicans are an anti-tax and to some extent anti-debt constituency. Liberals are also fairly anti-tax, unless it’s limited to taxing the rich. There’s opposition now to all forms of new energy infrastructure: to oil/gas/nuclear from the left and many liberals, to wind/solar from the right.
There are no “easy ways.” Only hard fights, against both sometime allies and longtime political opponents.
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Optimistic of you to assume it’ll only be fifty years. Do you expect humans to adapt that quickly? The climate will be messed up for centuries at least
Where do you get the "centuries at least" bit? The hole in the ozone layer "repaired itself" much faster after humans made changes. There's no more acid rain in Los Angeles after humans made changes. These all happened within my lifetime. We also saw during covid lock downs how quickly things changed from the sudden slow down in human activity.
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They should also plot the lines on actual temperature, instead of std. dev. And expressing a number as some percentage more or less than another number is a great way to make it meaningless.
Like this? https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/?dm_id=nino3.4