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Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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> Btw, Can you tell me how ancient temperature is measured from ice cores? https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-c...

>Past precipitation can be used to reconstruct past palaeoclimatic temperatures. δD and δ18O is related to surface temperature at middle and high latitudes. The relationship is consistent and linear over Antarctica[9]... I think this is also flawed, because this computation requires the ratio of the isotopes in the atmosphere at the period of interest, which we don't have. And the people making this measurement just…

https://science.nasa.gov/earth/earth-observatory/paleoclimat...

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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Based on https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/?dm_id=nino3.4 , 1988 is the year from the dataset with the lowest temperature throughout June and July.

I posted a comment earlier about how 1982-1983 (the start of the data) had a historically severe El Nino, and the comment got shadowbanned. I don't understand why that happens sometimes. Hasn't happened for months, but when it does it's always on innocuous factual comments, it's weird.

I vouched for this comment:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48891223

…as it looks pretty innocuous to me. And more importantly, your other comments aren’t obnoxious. :-) I’d love to know the heuristic that flipped that bit on that one comment.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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post #164

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Wanting every living human being to die and our species to go extinct ("NTHE" stands for "near-term human extinction") is a little beyond not being professional PR folks.

It reads to me as a prediction, not a desire: if we don't prevent NTHE then NTHE will happen.

In the context of "I want the human cancer gone from this planet" and the rest of that blog post, I am confident that it's a desire.

Probably a desire for a peaceful fading out of the human species rather than a violent one, but it's still far beyond PR naivety.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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This website is making heavy use of IP range blocking. Here's an uncensored link: https://web.archive.org/web/20260713092155/https://www.lyreb... Alternatively, since the link that was posted is just an AI copyright theft site, use the original instead: https://climatecasino.substack.com/p/some-monsters-are-real Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48890533

The author of that Climate Casino post has some... strong views. So you might want to bear this in mind when reading his analysis: "The human cancer is destructive to every living thing, as humans continue to eat the planet into oblivion. As someone who values “everything else,” I would be one of the first to rally behind the NTHE philosophy if it had any scientific basis at all. I want the human cancer gone from thi…

To be fair, the planet is gonna be fine in the long term. It's the human race that's in danger... so maybe a win-win from his perspective??

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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If it should be front-page news, shouldn't it also be at the top of the article, rather than right at the bottom?

They should also plot the lines on actual temperature, instead of std. dev.

And expressing a number as some percentage more or less than another number is a great way to make it meaningless.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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Air Conditioning. Aka "La clim'" in France. For some context: the conversation about climate change in general, and the recent heatwaves in particular, has been (quite cynically, but cleverly) reframed by far-right parties to be all about "we need to put AC in France to survive heatwaves". This is smart because it addresses on the physical sensations of people (it's the third heatwave since end of may, and counting),…

We do have quite a similar discussion here in Germany. Back in the day, everyone used fossil fuels to heat their homes. Back in those days, AC was frowned upon as inefficient, wasteful and decadent. Something only Americans did. The greens despised them for ecological reasons. The right despised them for moral reasons. Then the public came to know about climate change and it was decided that people should transition…

> because a heat pump is just an "evil" AC running in reverse

I keep hearing that, and then I keep hearing people tell me that you can't just put an heat pump, run it in "reverse" and "pretend" to have AC. That seems to be a case where the theory is here, but in practice the applicances are just optimized for one part, or the other.

(Also, heating is often done by heating water in radiators, and cooling by cooling the air.

It may seems stupid, but I still can fathom whether the same applicance can do both ! Or, if I want to do the right thing, and replace both my no-very-old gas boiler AND my pretty-old AC, can I put a single heat pump ?)

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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post #66

This website is making heavy use of IP range blocking. Here's an uncensored link: https://web.archive.org/web/20260713092155/https://www.lyreb... Alternatively, since the link that was posted is just an AI copyright theft site, use the original instead: https://climatecasino.substack.com/p/some-monsters-are-real Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48890533

The author of that Climate Casino post has some... strong views. So you might want to bear this in mind when reading his analysis: "The human cancer is destructive to every living thing, as humans continue to eat the planet into oblivion. As someone who values “everything else,” I would be one of the first to rally behind the NTHE philosophy if it had any scientific basis at all. I want the human cancer gone from thi…

So, because he's a nutter the graph shouldn't be front page news is the argument then? That'll teach him.

He will learn the regret the day he dared say "hey, this graph means we're all gonna die if we don't do something! Look at it!" because we outsmarted him by refusing to look.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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It will be front-page news if there are storms later this year. For now, ocean temperature readings far away are effectively a distant early warning of future weather. (Depending on your perspective about “distant” and “early.”)

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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People quibbling about whether TFA was written by an AI and why the chart is at the end of the article and what a standard deviation. Meanwhile the planet is simmering.

The article is crap as well as the graph. And the author made the planet simmer even more to produce this crap.

Data visualization is hard, but what do you think is wrong with the graph?
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