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Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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You expect people to start running at 5-6km/h which is about a fast walking pace? That seems unduly slow?

Running is harder work than walking. Try it!

I want to try it but how am I supposed to run at the same speed as I walk?

I mean physically, what am I supposed to do to run at 5-6km/h? Should I exaggerate and slow down my run stance? Like I'm fake running? Is that more demanding than walking and a good intro to running vs just running/jogging?

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Many people have prediabetes without knowing. Just doing this won't magically help everyone. GCM also isn't enough since you can have elevated insuline for 10 to 20 years before blood sugar starts rising, so a GCM won't show this.

Pretty much everyone will benefit from regular lifting and running, whether they're diabetic, pre-diabetic, or not.

Pretty much everyone doesn't want to do that unless they have a doctor telling them it's either that or death. A GCM might nudge them into making real changes, telling them to "just lift and run" will most definitely not.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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You expect people to start running at 5-6km/h which is about a fast walking pace? That seems unduly slow?

If you haven’t ran before and are carrying some extra weight then yeah it’s probably a good place to start for your first couple of short runs. Even running slowly puts additional stress on your achilles so it’s a bit of a wake up call to your body. Running slowly for 10 minutes a few times when you’re just getting started isn’t going to hurt anyone and if everything checks out then you can start to up the pace.

> Running slowly for 10 minutes a few times ... isn't going to hurt anybody.

Heh, don't get old or be born with the wrong genes. I have to start at no more than about 2min at a time being middle aged now. Some of us are born weaker and more fragile. Aging only makes this worse.

Strength training can help, though I've accumulated enough stubborn injuries now that I'm just thankful I can do anything.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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"In this model, mice lived in specially designed cages where food was accessed through a hinged, weighted lid. To eat, the mice had to lift the lid while wearing a small shoulder collar, causing a squat-like movement that engaged the muscle contractions people use during resistance exercise. The load was gradually increased over several days, mimicking progressive strength training." So the study doesn't really show…

This is great news if you're a mouse with diabetes.

As a mouse with diabetes sometimes you have to wonder how did I get here?

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Weightlifing is the only exercise that I've ever managed to make a habit. I do powerlifting 3x/week. I've tried running, swimming, cycling, etc. and hated all of it.

Running is quite meditative when you get in to it (at least for me when outside - indoor running on treadmills is soul destroying though I agree). You don't have to go fast or far, but after 10-15-20 mins I find my mind gets into a fairly calm state, even if my legs and lungs are burning. We - as a species - are engineered and built to run. I think there is a lot to be said for it. If anyone is reading this and consi…

> Running is quite meditative when you get in to it

Some people are physiologically suited to running, but many aren't.

I've been running 4-6 times weekly for 28 years and still dread every single run. Every step is a slog and I can't wait until it's over. It never gets easier and in fact I'm getting slower with age, which is even more depressing.

I'm glad it's mediative for you, but please bear in mind that you are exceptional in that regard. I think it's better to be pragmatic and say "try running but maybe it won't click for you, don't feel disheartened if so".

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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I used to do weightlifting, but it's hard to keep up daily discipline with potential injury risk. Rest days are mandatory and this is the #1 killer of compliance over time (for me). Rowing is my go-to now. It is low impact so I can do it every day without any exceptions. I've been able to hold onto this discipline for 2 years now. The advantage of rowing is that there isn't really a limit to how much it can suck. You…

Rest days are not mandatory, that’s a matter of programming. /r/gzcl was started by a guy who has done more than 1,000 training days in a row.

Orthodox weightlifting has athletic/competitive roots, which invites a certain level of injury, but modern kinesiology and joint-centric lifting create a very different injury profile.

Work with a PT for detailed specifics, but 7 days a week lifting programs for seniors are possible and a decent starting point for decrepit middle-aged IT workers training for longevity.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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"In this model, mice lived in specially designed cages where food was accessed through a hinged, weighted lid. To eat, the mice had to lift the lid while wearing a small shoulder collar, causing a squat-like movement that engaged the muscle contractions people use during resistance exercise. The load was gradually increased over several days, mimicking progressive strength training." So the study doesn't really show…

Does the average "scientist" even care about quality these days or is it all just whatever headline makes their funders happy?

The editor nearly always chooses the title when an article is published.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Running is quite meditative when you get in to it (at least for me when outside - indoor running on treadmills is soul destroying though I agree). You don't have to go fast or far, but after 10-15-20 mins I find my mind gets into a fairly calm state, even if my legs and lungs are burning. We - as a species - are engineered and built to run. I think there is a lot to be said for it. If anyone is reading this and consi…

> Running is quite meditative when you get in to it Some people are physiologically suited to running, but many aren't. I've been running 4-6 times weekly for 28 years and still dread every single run. Every step is a slog and I can't wait until it's over. It never gets easier and in fact I'm getting slower with age, which is even more depressing. I'm glad it's mediative for you, but please bear in mind that you are…

Well I said "at least for me" 10 words in, and "give it a go" etc so I am not suggesting this is universal.

Sorry it doesn't work for you. 4 to 6 times a week is a lot though, max I do is 3 times a week, typically 2.

I should probably add that I am not a natural runner's build. I am pretty chunky, about 1.8m and about 100kg so I am not some waif and carrying probably 15kg more than I should be, and a typical run is often running to work instead of taking public transport in London so it is very much a "functional" thing.

I don't "enjoy" it, but I do get a clear mind and a bit of a kick out of it once the run is over.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Running is harder work than walking. Try it!

I want to try it but how am I supposed to run at the same speed as I walk? I mean physically, what am I supposed to do to run at 5-6km/h? Should I exaggerate and slow down my run stance? Like I'm fake running? Is that more demanding than walking and a good intro to running vs just running/jogging?

I wouldn't get too hung up on actual speed or numbers, but try to just keep it slow.

I hear what you are saying. Running gait is more sort of a lean-forward-and-push-off-with-toes type thing than a smooth easy walk. You can do that with short strides and medium-cadence and you won't go very fast.

Perhaps just transition into a run and then make a conscious effort to slow down, or go the other way where you walk faster and faster until your instinct is to change to a running gait and try to keep that pace.

The important thing is to try not run too fast "by accident".

Good luck

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