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Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

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Post by paradoxyl »

joshstrange wrote: post #2

Some pretty damning stuff: > OpenAI also instructs new hires on how to avoid scrutiny when they leave Apple. For example, Mr. Tan warns them not to tell Apple that they have taken jobs at OpenAI, so they can stay at Apple as long as they can. > Apple says it discovered a pattern of OpenAI recruits emailing themselves confidential information when leaving Apple, including Tan. > OpenAI apparently used confidential App…

Companies take cultural cues from leadership. When you have a puffed-up sociopath who has never accomplished anything but lying his way to the top, this is what you get.

I'm both infuriated and worried that such a flim-flam man has put himself at the center of the U.S. stock market.

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drstewart wrote: post #493
PedroBatista wrote: post #342

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> Petty theft, snatching, pickpockets, scams, etc are relatively uncommon compared to e.g. many popular places in Europe. Yes, in non-popular places in Europe those are also quite uncommon, even more then in the US on average.. So the lesson here is that those type of crimes are common in tourist heavy places, like.. Times Square in NYC for example.

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Post by throw1234567891 »

baxtr wrote: post #528
thewhitetulip wrote: post #475

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Don't matter to people who look at codex as a way to replace employees

Maybe. But those people might care about their IP being stolen by Codex.

If they were, they would not be shipping code to those platforms already.

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Post by torben-friis »

ipdashc wrote: post #156
ErneX wrote: post #9

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Appalling.

Meh. It's one megacorp stealing stuff from another megacorp, hardly "appalling", who cares. I'd probably react the same way; I just wouldn't leak it to my next employer, that's dumb.

A sum of people with this attitude is what a megacorp is and why they're hated.

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Post by throw1234567891 »

hhh wrote: post #457
nullbio wrote: post #376

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Obviously they are looking at your IP and code. Anthropic trains on your data regardless of you opting out, I know that one for certain. There's no coincidence they "keep your data temporarily despite opting out" - because they wash it in legal loopholes. There is no opt out. These companies WILL steal your business. Only a matter of time before they are sued as well.

How is it obvious? We have strong legal agreements that state otherwise, do you think they are just lying and risking thousands of lawsuits? I think it's more likely that there are 3/4 of a billion users that don't have these agreements and just pay for ChatGPT Plus and don't opt-out of anything, and are feeding the scaling machine every day.

ChatGPT has 3 to 4 billion paying users? And still haven’t turned a profit?

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Post by ElProlactin »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #527
hawaiianbrah wrote: post #476

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> It's more that money and power enable you to be who you really are If you’re only a certain way when you have money and power, is it really “who you really are”?

I believe the original statement is an oversimplification. What actually happens is that extreme situations, both positive and negative, can help you discover things about you that you didn't know before. Apart from that, the problem with "who you really are" is that individual is more of a process than a static thing, so any such reification becomes invalid in the next instant.

You're right that people aren't static, but we should also acknowledge there are lots of people who become rich and powerful and they don't do horrid things. Many are perfectly decent people who care for their families, help those around them, contribute to their communities and use their wealth and power to support causes that are important to them.

You don't hear about these people as much because they're not out looking for attention, making outlandish statements or even trying to "change the world" in a narcisstic Silicon Valley way.

"Who you are" at your core drives the direction you go in when you acquire wealth and power.

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Post by romanovcode »

downrightmike wrote: post #452
xp84 wrote: post #98

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For real. If Apple can prove half of this complaint, OpenAI need to be jumping straight to "how can we settle this immediately. " Can you imagine how much fun Apple lawyers would have taking this to a jury trial? Especially considering overall Apple knows that the public overall vaguely likes Apple and distrusts "AI" companies for, hmmm... (alleged) IP theft. I'm also wondering about all these involved ex-Apple peopl…

Also OpenAI is the one that bought all the ram chips for the years to come, so no one likes them

Glorious Leader Trump likes them. They gave stock to him.

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Post by Laurel1234 »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #392
calf wrote: post #368

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No it's because they think they're saving the world.

I hate to use the word sociopath, because it has such a fine point on it, but if you believe there are smart "sociopaths" out there, might they be attracted to AI in general (companies like OpenAI or SpaceXAI specifically)?

Sam Altman raped his sister and assassinated a whistleblower. He's been removed from his last two companies for being a habitual liar (he managed to strongarm his way back into OpenAI of course). He only has money brcause he sold his first company based on fraudulent user numbers.

Hard to imagine people will go work for the plagiarism machine run by a sociopath because of their high ethic and moral standards.

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