What they did to ChatGPT.app is incredible. It was a truly useful app, but the replacement is brain damaged in terms of UI/UX beyond repair. Incredible, really.
Doesn't matter much though: for non-coding task Gemini is much better anyway. And as of now Google hasn't fuxx0red up Gemini yet.
ChatGPT Work
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#152I just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex. But what happened to ChatGPT? Where am I supposed to casually chat? Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing. Can someone from the OpenAI team clarify the difference btwn the modes? Does chatgpt work have more business-y related plugins turned on by…
So let me get this straight: 1) If you have the Codex desktop app installed, and you update from within the app, it replaces itself with the new chat-demoted-to-an-overlay app called "ChatGPT" and renames your existing ChatGPT app to "ChatGPT Classic." 2) If you get the new ChatGPT app and replace your current app with it, you don't get a "Classic" app and there's no way to download it. 3) They really named an app "C…
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
AppKit and SwiftUI and WinUI are all meh for rendering lots of text. Chromium is quite good at it. Plus they have lots of embedded web content these days and managing webviews is a relative pain vs it all being one webview
Why is a browser tool better at rendering text than native?
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure if the cause but there’s this overarching absolute neglect of UX. Maybe they’re all just trying to grab as much market share as humanly possible, but imo it seems more likely they’ll lose each segment to products that actually make sure the experience isn’t absolute dog shit.
Anthropic's suite of products have practically zero cohesion across each other. I've said it some time before. There is no clear product vision or overarching roadmap in terms of users and UX, it is just vaguely connected things being vibe-coded in parallel.
That does sound like what would tend to happen if they used their own product exclusively.
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#155This thread is so spot on but I can also imagine the product development internally is moving so fast that they're trying to reconcile everything and can't. And this is the huge mistake so many companies make. Leave what's working alone. Build new adjacent things. It's clear they want to make money and work or code is the focus of enterprise. But never rename something Classic...so bad.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s all ChatGPT under the hood. Even though it says Work or Codex or whatever you can just ask it whatever you want, and it will work.
> Even though it says Work or Codex or whatever you can just ask it whatever you want, and it will work. No it's not. Codex creates a new folder in `~/Documents` in iCloud drive/OneDrive for every single thread you make. Furthermore, these threads are also polluted with your global AGENTS.md file, as well as all other developer_instructions that are injected by the harness. I want my chat isolated from work contexts.
What functionality are you seeking from a native app “for chatting”?
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#157So I've now lost all my ChatGPT chats? Or did they hide them? I see some of them, but the history is inaccessible?? Edit: I found them back in the 'classic' version of the app. Wildly confusing what is going to happen to the data there, chats, projects, custom GPT's. This is going to be fun tomorrow when everyone at the company I work at finds out all their chats, projects and GPT’s are ‘gone’ after they ‘update’. An…
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#158So I've now lost all my ChatGPT chats? Or did they hide them? I see some of them, but the history is inaccessible?? Edit: I found them back in the 'classic' version of the app. Wildly confusing what is going to happen to the data there, chats, projects, custom GPT's. This is going to be fun tomorrow when everyone at the company I work at finds out all their chats, projects and GPT’s are ‘gone’ after they ‘update’. An…
Can you not SSO into the browser-based version of the app?
Given the product judgment shown in this particular release, it doesn’t seem to be out of the question.
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#159I just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex. But what happened to ChatGPT? Where am I supposed to casually chat? Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing. Can someone from the OpenAI team clarify the difference btwn the modes? Does chatgpt work have more business-y related plugins turned on by…
It really is a mess. An hour or so ago, the download for macOS was called ChatGPT.dmg. However the app in there was still called Codex. But it installed ChatGPT. But it seems to be fixed now. Also, subtitling Work with "For getting work done" and Codex with "For developers" is a bit aggressive towards developers ;)
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you not SSO into the browser-based version of the app?
I think part of the concern here is that these app changes could be a trial balloon for identical web-side changes in the not too distant future. Given the product judgment shown in this particular release, it doesn’t seem to be out of the question.