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> It is shocking that 276 members of parliament would vote to support this. Are so many so naive? Or being paid off? There are a lot of countries in the EU that aren't shining beacons of democracy. The EU makes sense as an economic block but some of the countries in it are politically unaligned with what people think of when they think of the EU.
You really should check out the list of voters, you will be surprised who exactly voted "yes". The list can be found here: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chat-control-the-415-who...
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Any time now even the most pro-european EU defender will realise that what was once a trade union has slowly transformed itself into an undemocratic, bureaucratic monster.
Here in the UK, a large proportion of the population still think the EU is a good idea... Despite all the evidence proving otherwise.
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#463So, private companies can't track you, but the people with the state's monopoly on violence (which very much exists in the EU member nations) can? Is there any sort of warrant needed for accessing this sort of information on devices?
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Very reductionist comment- if you're an elected representative and you leave early to take a vacation knowing you'll be missing votes, you're not doing your job..
This. When I need to take my summer vacation, I need to request it to my manager in due time so the team can plan customer deliveries accordingly, and in my last day before leaving I need to do a handover of my open tasks to whoever will do the work in my absence. I can't just spontaneously decide one day that tomorrow I'm leaving for 2-4 weeks on vacation with no notice and no handover to my team. What's stopping ME…
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#466what are the actual consequences of that? they can read any Whatsapp encrypted chat? What changes?
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This narrative is a fabrication. EU spends 33% of World’s military spending, once you exclude US. EU spends more on military than China. How much do you need to spend to defend yourself, 60% of the world? Mind you, many western weapons, like stinger and javelin, cost more than their weight in silver. Sounds like a scam
Military spending != military capability and will to use force. For example, Germany spends way more than France on defense but has a less capable military and with no nuclear capability to boot. From force projection capability, the EU is toothless and lacks the spine to twist some arms in order to see its interests represented on the world stage. It's a pushover despite all that military. The reality is that you ne…
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Politicians can take vacations. Many things went wrong here but this ain't it.
Very reductionist comment- if you're an elected representative and you leave early to take a vacation knowing you'll be missing votes, you're not doing your job..
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Any time now even the most pro-european EU defender will realise that what was once a trade union has slowly transformed itself into an undemocratic, bureaucratic monster.
Only in some bubbles. But most normies I know are massive EU fanboys and showing them the malicious things the EU is doing, they just shrug at best, or call you a Putin supporter at worst. They'll only realize this when the jackboot is on their neck. But probably not even then because in some EU countries government obedience is like a religion.
I'm neurodivergent, and on various nerdom bell curve tails, including know more than averga bear about technology societal implications and misuses, but I still wouldn't use that term; here in particular, it seems a strong pejorative for anybody who disagrees with your world view :-/
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#470This is a nice piece of democracy right here: "a measure it had rejected twice in March. Although a majority of voting Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) actually opposed the regulation (314 against, 276 in favor, 17 abstentions), the motion to reject it failed to secure the required absolute majority of 361 votes. As a result, mass scanning is now permitted again until 2028." "Oh no we can't get a majority to…
>This is a nice piece of democracy right here: this is just eu in a nutshell, the irish were made to vote on both nice and lisbon treaties twice (both were voted no in the first vote)