EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

Post by quantum_magpie » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 9:04 PM UTC

joe_mamba wrote: post #378

mflaherty22 wrote: post #372

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Very reductionist comment- if you're an elected representative and you leave early to take a vacation knowing you'll be missing votes, you're not doing your job..

This. When I need to take my summer vacation, I need to request it to my manager in due time so the team can plan customer deliveries accordingly, and in my last day before leaving I need to do a handover of my open tasks to whoever will do the work in my absence. I can't just spontaneously decide one day that tomorrow I'm leaving for 2-4 weeks on vacation with no notice and no handover to my team. What's stopping ME…

Post by usrnm » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 9:05 PM UTC

parineum wrote: post #364

bradley13 wrote: post #128

Stupid parliamentary trick: Hold the vote on the day before the summer break - ensuring that many people have already returned to their home countries. Then use a sort of "reverse" parliamentary trick: the default is that this legislation is accepted. They needed an absolute majority - not of voting members, but of all members - to reject it. Result: 314 against, 276 in favor, 17 abstentions, 113 absent The EU is wel…

> It is shocking that 276 members of parliament would vote to support this. Are so many so naive? Or being paid off? There are a lot of countries in the EU that aren't shining beacons of democracy. The EU makes sense as an economic block but some of the countries in it are politically unaligned with what people think of when they think of the EU.

Post by pojzon » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 9:10 PM UTC

parineum wrote: post #364

bradley13 wrote: post #128

Stupid parliamentary trick: Hold the vote on the day before the summer break - ensuring that many people have already returned to their home countries. Then use a sort of "reverse" parliamentary trick: the default is that this legislation is accepted. They needed an absolute majority - not of voting members, but of all members - to reject it. Result: 314 against, 276 in favor, 17 abstentions, 113 absent The EU is wel…

> It is shocking that 276 members of parliament would vote to support this. Are so many so naive? Or being paid off? There are a lot of countries in the EU that aren't shining beacons of democracy. The EU makes sense as an economic block but some of the countries in it are politically unaligned with what people think of when they think of the EU.

Post by Thraway198 » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 9:28 PM UTC

spwa4 wrote: post #176

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In Canada, there's been a lot of talk about how immigration, "broke the Canadian consensus," around immigration as a good thing. The problem is, there never was a consensus around immigration. The Liberals own stats prove that. What there was was a consensus around multiculturalism and tolerance. Immigration itself, was always split evenly among three camps in Canada: those who want more, those who want less, and tho…

The promise (for the non-insane majority) was that immigration was going to save our economic bacon. That's the orthodox economist viewpoint after all. Well, it didn't. The minimum anyone would have to accept is that the economy went to shit while mass immigration was happening ... (in both EU and Canada). So I guess you don't have to accept causation, but they were happening simultaneously, so this reaction by the p…

Post by omicronxt » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 9:30 PM UTC

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #358

vrganj wrote: post #195

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What are you even saying? As a leftist, I want nothing to do with those fascists.

I have some bad news for you, the Chat Control was originally brought up by the left. Mainly by Ylva Johansson (Swedish Social Democrat, S&D group). Leftist origin via Johansson/S&D, but later sustained by mainstream centrists and now a watered down version is partly supported by conservatives too. Left fascism was not so long ago. Think of the woke hysteria, black lives matter, cancelling on twitter, people losing t…