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Re: GPT-5.6

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Here are 18 pelicans - six each for Luna, Terra and Sol at the six different reasoning effort levels (plus the price to generate each one): https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/gpt-5.6-pelican... Or if you want to see some in 3D, OpenAI featured a pelican riding a tricycle, bicycle, pony and another pelican in their livestream this morning: https://www.youtube.com/live/Wq45rvPGNHs?t=1070s

Thank you Simon! Luna is surprisingly decent across all reasoning levels.

Re: GPT-5.6

#392

Dirac ( https://github.com/dirac-run/dirac , https://dirac.run/ ) now supports gpt-5.6. This thing does now seem to be on the chatGPT/codex accounts yet. UPDATE: it is now available in chatGPT account also, they rolled it out

I used to pride myself on not being the "fonts too pointy, scroll too buttery" crowd! But AI has brought me full circle and now nothing removes my interest in reading even a single word on a page faster than purple gradient greeble-afflicted tailwind-slop models put out without stronger prompting/references

That being said, maybe 5.6 can fix that!

Re: GPT-5.6

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post #97
post #6

Ok long time Claude Code user here; lately I've started to realize there's other great models out there I should be trying, but I'm hesitant to leave Claude Code behind for something new. What's the consensus today on codex vs claude code, does it really matter anymore?

Codex has arguably been better than Claude Code for months now, but it's flown under the radar because it just didn't capture the same viral marketing effect and OpenAI in general has had more optics / PR issues than Anthropic amongst the online developer crowd. I use the word "better" not in the sense that the underlying GPT models are fundamentally smarter or more intelligent, but rather that as a product Codex is…

What about cost?

Re: GPT-5.6

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I wish model launches were like proper product releases it's impossible to _try_ it out on release! it's not on their codex subscription, or the web/mobile chatgpt interfaces, or aws bedrock, etc. I just cant find a working endpoint with the latest model after they announce

For me, minutes ago, as a Plus subscriber:

I started up Codex CLI fresh. That version of Codex was 1.42.5. 5.6 wasn't in the models list.

After I updated Codex to a newer version (0.144.0), 5.6-terra and -luna appeared in the models list (but not 5.6-sol).

(It's impossible for me to know whether updating was causative or just correlative, but that's the timeline I experienced.)

Re: GPT-5.6

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post #17

I haven't tried an OpenAI model for a long time, but with Fable going to API pricing soon this might be enough to get me to try codex.

Seeing how Anthropomorphic just reset usage quotas back to 0 and the other day extended Fable sub inclusion by a few days, I have a feeling they might not drop Fable out of sub after all, because like you I would most definitely take a long good look at codex at that point.

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Re: GPT-5.6

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post #97
post #6

Ok long time Claude Code user here; lately I've started to realize there's other great models out there I should be trying, but I'm hesitant to leave Claude Code behind for something new. What's the consensus today on codex vs claude code, does it really matter anymore?

Codex has arguably been better than Claude Code for months now, but it's flown under the radar because it just didn't capture the same viral marketing effect and OpenAI in general has had more optics / PR issues than Anthropic amongst the online developer crowd. I use the word "better" not in the sense that the underlying GPT models are fundamentally smarter or more intelligent, but rather that as a product Codex is…

Switched to Codex last week, and I'm already MUCH happier than I have been with Claude Code. Which surprised me.

Re: GPT-5.6

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post #379

Here are 18 pelicans - six each for Luna, Terra and Sol at the six different reasoning effort levels (plus the price to generate each one): https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/gpt-5.6-pelican... Or if you want to see some in 3D, OpenAI featured a pelican riding a tricycle, bicycle, pony and another pelican in their livestream this morning: https://www.youtube.com/live/Wq45rvPGNHs?t=1070s

gpt-5.6-sol x XHIGH is my favourite

Re: GPT-5.6

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't what "genuinely asking" looks like, you're criticizing using "questions" as cover. It isn't subtle, nor is it constructive. I agree with them, Sol, Terra, and Luna are confusing names. They mean the same thing as GPT-5.6-Max, GPT-5.6-Plus, and GPT-5.6-Fast but require base knowledge for an analogy. It feels like it was adding by the marketing department.

>They mean the same thing as GPT-5.6-Max, GPT-5.6-Plus, and GPT-5.6-Fast but require base knowledge for an analogy. But do they though? When do you use GPT-5.6-Max-Low vs. GPT-5.6-Plus High? Or GPT-5.6-Fast-Xhigh? What's the Pareto optimal choice (outcome and price)? According to the benches it seems to bop around and the even if the benches are accurate the best choice isn't always consistent.

> When do you use GPT-5.6-Max-Low vs. GPT-5.6-Plus High?

You don't, because that isn't something I proposed using for model naming.

I called them GPT-5.6-Max, GPT-5.6-Plus, and GPT-5.6-Fast. Reasoning levels are distinct from the model design itself, and the UI makes that clear.

Plus, using that same flawed argument this would be called GPT-5.6-Sol-Low or GPT-5.6-Luna-High which also makes no sense/is confusing. So that argument applies (or more accurately doesn't), no matter the model names.

Re: GPT-5.6

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post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing the dramatic differences in scores just going from high to xhigh is just another demonstration of the bitter lesson: Just keep scaling search and learning. We are probably going to need a lot more GPUs.

> We are probably going to need a lot more GPUs. Or a breakthrough in algorithms etc. The human brain, heck all bio brains, are proof that you don't need a lot of power or size for intelligence.

The human brain has 80 billion neurons and a 100 trillion synapses. I think you're underselling the processing power of that warm chunk of meat.

The real message of the last 15 years has actually been the opposite: if you throw enough processing power at it, intelligence emerges.

Re: GPT-5.6

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post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like the way brevity instructions have changed is mis-aligned with how most people would expect to use them or are currently using them. Here's the example they give: > Instead of asking for the shortest possible answer, replace brevity instructions with prioritization: > Lead with the conclusion. Include the evidence needed to support it, any material caveat, and the next action. Omit secondary detail and r…

> Lead with conclusion. I would presume (perhaps falsely?) that an instruction like this would lead to the model presenting a conclusion not supported by the evidence, and potentially backtracking as it then tries to justify said conclusion. Yes, if deliberation happens, the model should figure out what it wants to say during that phase; but if you're using auto mode, the model is not going to be doing any deliberati…

Oh the number of time LLM will, for example, be giving me the list of bugs it found in code, when I ask it for a review, just to decide there’s no big half way through explaining it.
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