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EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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This is a nice piece of democracy right here: "a measure it had rejected twice in March. Although a majority of voting Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) actually opposed the regulation (314 against, 276 in favor, 17 abstentions), the motion to reject it failed to secure the required absolute majority of 361 votes. As a result, mass scanning is now permitted again until 2028." "Oh no we can't get a majority to…

>This is a nice piece of democracy right here: this is just eu in a nutshell, the irish were made to vote on both nice and lisbon treaties twice (both were voted no in the first vote)

Any time now even the most pro-european EU defender will realise that what was once a trade union has slowly transformed itself into an undemocratic, bureaucratic monster.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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I'm really surprised at the hurry. The EU, and many EU governments, have been ramming through deeply unpopular legislation at a breakneck pace for no apparent reason, lately. It feels like the last turn in a board game where everyone is busy taking points with no regard for the impact of the decisions on the theoretical next turn - because there is no next turn. Its really weird. > blame-laundering mechanism Also, I'…

for no apparent rason? the way they are preparing to bring the population into a war hardly can be any more apparent...

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Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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post #82

Roberta Metsola's actions this week jeopardise the legitimacy of the EU project as a whole. It's clear that member countries use the EU as a blame-laundering mechanism to pass domestically unpopular laws, but the forcing of this vote under the urgency procedure that requires absolute majority to reject, on the last EP session before summer break is so blatant that it might awaken people that might've overlooked the s…

I'm really surprised at the hurry. The EU, and many EU governments, have been ramming through deeply unpopular legislation at a breakneck pace for no apparent reason, lately. It feels like the last turn in a board game where everyone is busy taking points with no regard for the impact of the decisions on the theoretical next turn - because there is no next turn. Its really weird. > blame-laundering mechanism Also, I'…

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Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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EU conservatives are just moderate leftists, who cares.

What are you even saying? As a leftist, I want nothing to do with those fascists.

I have some bad news for you, the Chat Control was originally brought up by the left. Mainly by Ylva Johansson (Swedish Social Democrat, S&D group). Leftist origin via Johansson/S&D, but later sustained by mainstream centrists and now a watered down version is partly supported by conservatives too.

Left fascism was not so long ago. Think of the woke hysteria, black lives matter, cancelling on twitter, people losing their jobs because of them saying something the left ideology did not like etc.

Left have been and still are viciously hateful and racist towards white people. So if you are left and while, you are basically destroying your own livelihood.

Conservative Poland, Italy and Ireland are strictly against Chat Control. Well, at least against the worse version of it.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Sadly doesn't seem to make much difference, though. If anything the UK is less authoritarian than the US now.

At least I have still have a 2nd amendment - and, at least for now, still post on social media without getting a knock on my door.

Tens of millions of Americans, usually supporters of the 2nd, have openly declared that having a firearm on you while at a protest is a crime punishable by death, and have done nothing to stand up against Trump, who has openly declared his hostility to the 2nd amendment multiple times now.

Bringing a rifle to a protest you expect to get hot, brandishing it about, and then shooting someone in self defense is perfectly fine, but having an every day carry firearm, getting held down by the president's personal paramilitary org, and being shot execution style is apparently fine.

I'm sick and tired of the stupid claims about how important the 2nd is while the very advocates of it only bring it up to talk about how much they want to shoot democrats.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Democracy is when you just try and try again and again until it passes with 51/49. Then its democratic and legitimized and only evil terrorists would oppose those laws we have all democratically agreed upon. Also, see the case of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%BCseyin_Do%C4%9Fru - if you aren't liked by the EU courts, they just accuse you of "collusion with Russia" and ban your bank account via "sanction policies…

How did you connect the linked Wikipedia article to EU courts and ECJ? This journalist was not sanctioned by the court.

The court approved the sanctions when he tried to challenge them.
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