My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite

Post by dminik » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 3:03 PM UTC

dminik wrote: post #410

dpatterbee wrote: post #365

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I don't know why choice of language is having such sway in determining what you view as professional. Maybe it's just a cultural difference but where I'm from people just use the words they need to to communicate what they're trying to say. If something's a shit show I'd prefer someone just said it rather than dancing around it with corpo-speak.

As someone from a cultural background that is considered very direct and blunt, I can say that there is a rather fine line between being direct and being an asshole. This post devolves into a personal attack one sentence in. There was no reason to go into Jared's life at all to begin with. The entire post doesn't need to exist at all if you're confident that Bun leaving will have zero or even positive impact. Why tur…

Post by dwattttt » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 3:04 PM UTC

dpatterbee wrote: post #400

dwattttt wrote: post #378

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> I don't know why choice of language is having such sway in determining what you view as professional This is a blog post: it's purely textual, language is the only thing it uses to convey meaning. The words chosen to do so reflect what the author thinks. > where I'm from people just use the words they need to to communicate what they're trying to say Yes. What ark is trying to say, via the words he chose, is what's…

I think you're, intentionally or not, misinterpreting my comment. Language is used to convey meaning, and Andrew wrote words that presumably meant what he meant them to mean. However, in many comments on here people are not commenting on "what he meant them to mean" and instead focusing on which words he chose to convey that meaning. I'm sure Andrew could've switched out every word in the post and still conveyed the…

Post by Aurornis » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 3:06 PM UTC

grayhatter wrote: post #314

tuckwat wrote: post #101

This is unprofessional and embarrassing for Zig. I know very little about Jared but his article yesterday, which I read, seemed appreciative of Zig. I now learn he's donated significant chunks of money to them. This entire article is publicly and personally attacking him for choosing a different product. It's insane to me that Andrew thinks this post will somehow exonerate Zig when it really just makes them look chil…

> Or maybe he doesn't care, and just wants to attack Jarred? I've worked with ark enough that I think I've started to learn his default style, or at the very least to know that from him; this isn't an attack. If that was your read, I think you're taking more from sources that aren't this post. I wonder if you're confusing statements of fact, for attacks? They're distinct, and the context for the post. I'm sure he's b…

Post by simonw » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 3:09 PM UTC

nicce wrote: post #390

simonw wrote: post #377

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You want to see him address being "a stinky manager", having "beginner energy", choosing to take VC as opposed to "a solid living via crowdfunding", or "already writing slop well before he had access to LLMs"? Those are all opinions where arguing about them isn't going to be productive. Countering the accusation of "an outright fabrication" on the other hand is worthwhile because it's a claim that can be countered. I…

> Countering the accusation of "an outright fabrication" on the other hand is worthwhile because it's a claim that can be countered. Hmm, fuzzing integration was merged 8 months ago. First found bug mentioned 3 months ago. Bun is 4 years old. I think both arguments can be true at the same time based on this evidence. It is entirely possible that for more than 3 years team has said that no fuzzing was done, and the fi…

Post by rudedogg » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 3:09 PM UTC

ModernMech wrote: post #251

lkey wrote: post #156

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Its an attack an Jarred's public, (un)professional behaviour. One most of us in the community have born witness too in recent months. "Jarred, in his professional capacity, drove away many from our community, and we'd prefer to disassociate." is not 'Jarred is a bad person, privately'. Now, in these circles, that might as well be the same thing, given how little personal life I imagine most VCs have left outside of w…

I think he’s being completely sincere in this attempt to assassinate this person’s character. I say this as someone who before this day regarded Kelley as a role model. Now I see him in the same category as a Musk like character. Don’t blame “unmasked neurodivergence” for this, plenty of neurodivergent people can communicate effectively and professionally to a wide audience without attacking someone’s professional ch…