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Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except the article doesn't prove any trend
Here you have (albeit small) proof of some sort of trend: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit... Still, doesn't come close to popularity of GitHub itself today ( https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit... ), but I think the trend of moving away from GitHub is clear both in data and sentiment, both qualitative and quantitative.
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Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#143Switching from one centralized git repository to another that also injects political messaging into URLs without consents.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can just insert the word "some" as required.
Agreed, but the headline wouldn't travel nearly as well, if at all. > Why some Americans are switching to soy Would be more accurate than > Why Americans are switching to soy But wouldn't garner nearly the same amount of clicks. There is conscious exaggeration in omitting 'some' - a fluff-blog click-farm trope I don't enjoy seeing in the developer space.
You could drop the verb clause? This would make the headline accurate while keeping it punchy.
> why Americans switch to soy
And
> why developers switch to codeberg
But the cynic in me thinks that the form of the headline that drastically overstates the the phenomenon in question by implication is something that has been workshopped and is commonly used because it turns something kind of boring into a spectacle.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there The trend is what's interesting here. Github has never been threatened by anyone, because their service was too good to bother for everyone but the most ideologically motivated. Now their service has become so bad there's a github joke at work every time something is down or slower than it should. Reputation is a…
Yeah, like how developers were en-masse ditching GitHub to go to GitLab when Microsoft acquired GitHub.
It's so weird the herd behavior of developers.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there The trend is what's interesting here. Github has never been threatened by anyone, because their service was too good to bother for everyone but the most ideologically motivated. Now their service has become so bad there's a github joke at work every time something is down or slower than it should. Reputation is a…
Except the article doesn't prove any trend
Stackoverflow usage didn't fall overnight either. But it has gone the way of MySpace and Oracle.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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> This way github is a "dumb backup" Eh? What GH department do you work in anyways? Training Data Sustainability?
I don't understand your question. If I was working for GH would I be selfhosting forgejo? edit: If you think I sound like an LLM, I guess that is what happens when most of your interactions in English language are with LLMs.
> If I was working for GH would I be selfhosting forgejo?
Why not. But you are saying github as a dumb backup makes sense when you do self-hosting. I don't think you really believe that.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#148Mostly because developers (me included) don't like to be told we are being laid off due to AI that was trained on our free open-source hobby projects.
how switching to an alternative like codeberg would prevent it? ti can be scraped as well
But on GitHub, you agree explicitly that MS can use it. I would assume codeberg has any-scraping measures (not saying they are perfect, but better than knowing Microsoft can train with private repos).
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#149I'm trying sourcehut at the moment https://sourcehut.org/ and it seems really good - very simple and fast. And does seem to be free for hosting open source projects. Anyone else used it and have thoughts on it?
I use it as my main forge and could not be happier. It also seems to be the only forge that allows its web frontend to work with JS disabled. (That I am aware of)
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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Except the article doesn't prove any trend
Stackoverflow usage didn't fall overnight either. But it has gone the way of MySpace and Oracle.
Stackoverflow was still arguably the best offering at what it provided, but what it provided became obsolete. The need for a repository service is only growing.
It is not clear to me that Github's service has degraded due to incompetence, it also seems possible that they are just struggling to meet demand as the source code backbone of an internet in a critical moment of evolution. I'm not sure any single provider would fare any better.