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Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by wesleywt »

benjamoon wrote: post #662

So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…

Musk has politicised Grok by manipulating it respond in his world view. You comment is extremely depressing.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by dbspin »

benjamoon wrote: post #662

So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…

I think US based folks perhaps aren't aware of what Musk has been doing in Europe politically. Specifically promoting - appearing at conferences, applying political pressure as well as public statements etc - actual fascists. Not right wing controversial figures etc, but literal authoritarian, anti-migrant, anti-EU, anti-democracy fascists. Not to be glib but if this was Mussolini-AI, or Pinochet-AI or what have you, the reaction would be the same.

If Musk succeeds in his attempts to bring fascism to Europe and breakup the EU, the humanitarian results (ie.: a land war in Europe), will be far worse even than the tens of thousands of deaths attributed to his dismantlement of USAID.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by merman »

benjamoon wrote: post #662

So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…

The rules are selectively enforced intentionally because the moderation desires it to be this way. It’s a feature not a bug. The mods are creating the echo chamber that the mods want. Personally I hate it.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by linuxhansl »

benjamoon wrote: post #662

So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…

Yes... And, perhaps the political comments here are a reasonable reaction to the misguided political influence that shaped grok.

How can we trust grok after this? At least it will take a while.

I need a model that can answer questions in an unbiased way and do what it is told. If I need a specific political opinion I can find that myself - thank you very much.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by jasonlotito »

grosswait wrote: post #501
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #484

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the preferred political narrative of the model that I worry about. It's how brazen they are about altering their models to achieve it. It makes me wonder what else they're altering. I have trust issues with OpenAI and Anthropic as well, but with those companies, at least I know their motives are purely profit driven. I don't have that assurance with xAI.

Implying you prefer your manipulation to be subtle an not discussed

There is nothing subtle about them being okay with producing child porn. That's a hard no from me. You can't argue your way around that.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by Alifatisk »

rullelito wrote: post #729

I wonder how many Grok bots are in the comments right now defending it.

You really think such thing would occur? Why would someone spend their time on running these bots for the sake of defending from criticism?

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by weddpros »

linuxhansl wrote: post #816
benjamoon wrote: post #662

So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…

Yes... And, perhaps the political comments here are a reasonable reaction to the misguided political influence that shaped grok. How can we trust grok after this? At least it will take a while. I need a model that can answer questions in an unbiased way and do what it is told. If I need a specific political opinion I can find that myself - thank you very much.

Just in case you missed this article https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2026/0... I hope we'll get updated stats on newer models eventually.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by amunozo »

throwaway_10948 wrote: post #680
amunozo wrote: post #677

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1. to have a healthy HN, we can't have this amount of political discussion under Grok 4.5. I am politically very liberal and not a fan at all of elon, but this ratio of technical vs. politics drives away the best discussion and will reddit-ify HN. This is my primary argument. 2. also, talk to people more! elon is very controversial, and that means that people's opinion of him differs a lot even in the more liberal cr…

I agree with what you say, but the parent comment is as political as any comment about Elon.
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