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Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #81

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Except the article doesn't prove any trend

Here you have (albeit small) proof of some sort of trend: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit... Still, doesn't come close to popularity of GitHub itself today ( https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit... ), but I think the trend of moving away from GitHub is clear both in data and sentiment, both qualitative and quantitative.

If only the article used any of that. And if it did, I still don't think the headline was warranted.

Also Google search trends are no evidence of adoption or migration. High chance of correlation, sure.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #39

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Not GP. Probably less dependencies on github, e.g. actions which sometimes don't work. This way github is a "dumb backup". I selfhost forgejo (gitea fork) on home sever (nuc), similar setup with tailscale. I was planning to setup git mirror on a remote VM for backup, but since I am the only one using it and have everything on dev laptop and remote backups of nuc server I didn't bother to do that (I know I still shoul…

> This way github is a "dumb backup" Eh? What GH department do you work in anyways? Training Data Sustainability?

I don't understand your question. If I was working for GH would I be selfhosting forgejo?

edit: If you think I sound like an LLM, I guess that is what happens when most of your interactions in English language are with LLMs.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #15

Sentiment for/against GitHub aside... "Why X are doing Y" articles like these pretend that the premise of "X are doing Y" is true, conveniently skipping to the "Why" before proving that the premise is even accurate in any meaningful way. This is why I never buy headlines that start out with "Why". > developers are ditching Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands o…

howtogeek is low-effort content mill, it's just upvoted here because of the headline, there is 0 actual effort in the article

I don’t know if it’s because of the weasel words in the article or the extensive use of passive voice in the article, but this article feels in part like it’s AI generated.

I am exhausted with having to figure out whether someone wrote something or let AI generate it for them.

Reading articles like this has become less pleasurable since the advent of generative AI. There’s no feeling or heart in the article, and it’s one of those cases where I can read the headline, read the article, and wonder why I spent my time reading it.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #78

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What makes GitLab "industry-standard" and Forgejo not?

I don’t know if Gitlab is an industry standard, but I’ve never heard of Forgejo. I worked for a headless CMS company and the only three providers we ever had requests for were GitHub, Bitbucket, and Gitlab. Gitlab is big enough to be generally adopted by governments. I think it’s fair to say it’s at least a lot closer to being an industry standard then Forgejo. (Aside: I would likely never use Gitlab by choice, and w…

Probably because those are service providers and Forgejo is software. Same reason people ask for Microsoft account and Google account integration, but nobody ever asks for Linux account integration in your cloud software.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #79
post #15

Sentiment for/against GitHub aside... "Why X are doing Y" articles like these pretend that the premise of "X are doing Y" is true, conveniently skipping to the "Why" before proving that the premise is even accurate in any meaningful way. This is why I never buy headlines that start out with "Why". > developers are ditching Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands o…

> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there The trend is what's interesting here. Github has never been threatened by anyone, because their service was too good to bother for everyone but the most ideologically motivated. Now their service has become so bad there's a github joke at work every time something is down or slower than it should. Reputation is a…

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Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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If you are running an org you should be putting all your private services behind netbird or tailscale at minimum. Zero public infra exposure beyond them.

The service isn't supposed to be private, some repos are intentionally public. And including all external collaborators in some VPN scheme is not possible at that scale.

Sorry, I assumed you were running a typical corp

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #78

You'd be surprised how easy it is to self-host GitLab with Docker Compose, GitLab has an official "Omnibus" Docker image. No need to handicap yourself with Gitea/Forgejo/whatever, you can just use an industry-standard platform without much effort. Hardware requirements are nowhere close to high either.

What makes GitLab "industry-standard" and Forgejo not?

one reason (among others) — compliance.

a corporate/b2b saas environment without stuff like this is often a non starter.

- SOC2

- ISO/IEC 27001:2022

- ISO/IEC 27017:2015

- ISO/IEC 27018:2019

- VPAT 508

https://about.gitlab.com/security/

no mention of these on the forejo site, so i can’t put “our internal software is all SOC2/ISO NUMBER compliant” as a bullet point on a slide deck.

it is theatre. but it’s industry theatre.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #107

Mostly because developers (me included) don't like to be told we are being laid off due to AI that was trained on our free open-source hobby projects.

how switching to an alternative like codeberg would prevent it? ti can be scraped as well

Quite a few commentors here mentioned using gitea or one of it's forks on a private tailnet. That would mean it isn't publicly available and can't be scraped.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #112

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> This way github is a "dumb backup" Eh? What GH department do you work in anyways? Training Data Sustainability?

I don't understand your question. If I was working for GH would I be selfhosting forgejo? edit: If you think I sound like an LLM, I guess that is what happens when most of your interactions in English language are with LLMs.

Given the state of it, you might well ...

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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post #60

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I’ve seen titles like “Why top scientists are leaving the United States” where the article itself talked about A SINGLE RESEARCHER relocating to France.

If you're talking about the article featured on HN just day(s) ago, that was about a funding effort to get more researchers to move to France from the US, while they interviewed one specific individual. I think maybe you skipped the contents of that article (as it was in French) and instead just read the HN comments which misunderstood the article :)

> If you're talking about the article featured on HN just day(s) ago

I’m not.

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